600hp Drift tyre choices thread . 2017 > present

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Jono395

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Hi guys , just been trolling the internet for information on tyres people use for drifting. All I get is old threads that I believe to be less relevant these days, as many new designs of tyre have flooded the market.

Car specific, it's for a 600hp jzx / s chassis. So not exactly after reviews on people's ditch finder part worns from 2008 that delaminated and they wondered why.

I'm looking for people's in depth review based on tyre treadwear , sidewall stiffness, how long they lasted, what PSI people run at with specific power.

Examples of some tyres on the market used widely in drifting

VALINO pergea
NANKANG AR-1
Goodyear ??
Kenda KR20
NEXEN n'fera SUR4G
Achillies xxx ?

Again, I'm after reviews of these newer type tyres on the market .
Not interested in reviews about older things like federal rsr, advan ad08r or older.


Let us know !
 
You going to be competing or just for fun? And if competing, in what comp?

Reason i ask is that the treadwear on the Nankangs are too low for most competitions and the KR20 is a lot higher and isn't really in the same class as the others

VALINO pergea (200)
NANKANG AR-1 (80)
Kenda KR20 (300)
NEXEN SUR4G (200)
Achillies 123S (220)

Can only comment on the Valino, Achilles and the Kenda's. Achilles vs the Valino's, the Achilles offered more grip and less time to get up to temp. Valino lasted waaaaaaaay longer though, and were cheaper. Valino had slightly stiffer sidewalls than the Achilles.

KR20's are comparable in grip to Toyo T1R's, but hold together more. A good tyre if you're moving from a street tyre (400+ treadwear) and can't find any semi's cheap enough. Although if you can get Valino's in your area chances are they would be cheaper than KR20's and offer more grip and life.

Hard to comment on pressures considering the temperature differences in climates, but 123S are happy being run as low as 18psi unstretched (265/35 on 10.5). They pressurise 3-4 psi after around a minute of actual constant drifting time (which is a long time when you think about it). That was with a 400whp LS in competition. Don't have any history with pressures on the Valino's as we only tested them at 28psi cold. The KR20's were ok down to 25psi, we didn't push them further.
 
BenRice said:
Kenda KR20 (300)

KR20's are comparable in grip to Toyo T1R's, but hold together more. A good tyre if you're moving from a street tyre (400+ treadwear) and can't find any semi's cheap enough. Although if you can get Valino's in your area chances are they would be cheaper than KR20's and offer more grip and life.
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Are Kenda decent then? My mate can get Kenda Kaiser KR20 for £28 each lol so tempted to get an order for like 14 in or something....

I'm getting a pair to run on the front of my 13 as the Nankang NS2's have gone to the cords on the inside and heard they are pretty decent for the money?
 
Softer compound than the NS2's so won't last as long, but at that price it's worth buying 4 just for fronts so you've got 2 to throw on when the other 2 wear out

As for rears, i would say they are one of THE grippiest "true road" tyres (ie non semi slicks) that you can buy. We can't get them easily over here, and they aren't anywhere near as cheap, which is a major bummer. In comparison, i run T1R's are steerers and they are a 280 treadwear, and almost identical to the KR20's.

I'd even rate the KR20's better in the wet than the T1R's and miles better than the NS2's.
 
Hey . Good information.

Sorry I meant the KR20A

I also use kr20 on my 400hp missile practice car. And what you say is true and legit!
Really cheap tyre here in japan, and good wear. They last forever and never chunk off. I rate them as the best drift tyre for any 1jz with basic power mods. However if anybody is after further info in the KR20 ... They lose about 30% of their grip on the depth blocks in the tread. I believe the compound changes. Kind of good, as you know when you should be going in for a quick change !

I've got a 700hp engine to fit into a new missile, so I was looking at grippier tyres for more angle and faster skids ! That's why I thought of the kr20a.

Valino was my next choice really . They use them here a lot in d1 lights and other comps.

Achilles are every so slightly cheaper than the valino's, so I'm not sure which route to go!

Thanks for your input. Seems accurate !


Ps. I use NANKANG ar1 on the front of my car .. But I was thinking of trying 4 of the same tyres as ive seen on many cars .. So 4x valino same grip front and rear (unless they were the different HP rates compounds 08r 200tw + 08rs 160tw) I don't know.



BenRice said:
You going to be competing or just for fun? And if competing, in what comp?

Reason i ask is that the treadwear on the Nankangs are too low for most competitions and the KR20 is a lot higher and isn't really in the same class as the others

VALINO pergea (200)
NANKANG AR-1 (80)
Kenda KR20 (300)
NEXEN SUR4G (200)
Achillies 123S (220)

Can only comment on the Valino, Achilles and the Kenda's. Achilles vs the Valino's, the Achilles offered more grip and less time to get up to temp. Valino lasted waaaaaaaay longer though, and were cheaper. Valino had slightly stiffer sidewalls than the Achilles.

KR20's are comparable in grip to Toyo T1R's, but hold together more. A good tyre if you're moving from a street tyre (400+ treadwear) and can't find any semi's cheap enough. Although if you can get Valino's in your area chances are they would be cheaper than KR20's and offer more grip and life.

Hard to comment on pressures considering the temperature differences in climates, but 123S are happy being run as low as 18psi unstretched (265/35 on 10.5). They pressurise 3-4 psi after around a minute of actual constant drifting time (which is a long time when you think about it). That was with a 400whp LS in competition. Don't have any history with pressures on the Valino's as we only tested them at 28psi cold. The KR20's were ok down to 25psi, we didn't push them further.
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The 123S are still the benchmark for a rear tyre tbh, and even as steerers are one of the best out there for those that can't dip under the 120-150TW.

The Valino's were priced less which made them popular as the difference wasn't massive, as was the Westlake semi. The Westlake was interesting as they gripped from the start, ie didn't need a scrub

Sounds like you're down to Kenda, Valino and Achilles. I'm guessing you're going to be ordering a dickload of them so might be worth investigating what bulk deals are available for each. Even dudes with massive budgets consider the $/tyre amounts when you're down to minor differences between tyres
 
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