Mid Mount Turbo? Any Good? - Is200

I'm guessing it's the silver one on eBay?!?
Looks shit!!

If you want a turbo IS200 check out my forsale threads.. Iv got a setup to build a 3sgte and drop straight in an IS200 with the 6spd manual..
 
Why would you do a mid mount turbo on an is200 when there is a shit ton of room in the engine bay, right next to the exhaust manifold?
 
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el_bandido said:
Why would you do a mid mount turbo on an is200 when there is a shit ton of room in the engine bay, right next to the exhaust manifold?
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Can you bolt a turbo to the standard IS200 exhaust manifold?

If no, then what he's done is a fuck sight easier than making/buying a manifold, and it looks like it uses the standard downpipe too.

TBH I've no idea why people are calling it shit etc as it looks like a tidy enough setup to me.

I guess they're all remote mount turbo experts.
 
My reason for thinking its shit is because that turbo is the lowest thing on the car.. That's what'll hit the deck first..
And wtf is the air filter doing down there? That'll suck up alsorts of shit and water.. It not a well executed conversion, looks rough as arseholes to me..
 
it doesn`t look the tidiest of setups.
the air filter placement is pretty ridiculous considering the amount of rain we seem to be getting recently.
all it needs to make it a much better conversion is a long intake pipe up to the engine bay so its out of the elements.
for the amount the scavenge pump and related bits and bobs cost he could probably have had a manifold and down pipe fabbed up.
 
Yep its the one linked.. To be fair it was an impulse, i put down a bid thinking i wouldn't get it and low and behold i did.
So just going to make the most of it.. My main concern is that i would barely be able to feel the turbo kick in as lag would be horrendous with the distance from turbo to engine etc..
First thing to do is put a guard in place to try and stop shit from being sucked up the intake.

Wouldnt moving the intake make pressure build up worse?
 
The lag wont be that bad man. I think its quite cool. Just be fucking careful. Air filter id be looking at just making it protected, I dont think itll ever hydrolock or shit..
Moving the intake wont make naff all difference to performance ime..
 
Lag will be minimal, looks no lower than the sump of chassis rail, and unless you drive through a deep puddle you got no chance of damage unless that filter is properly shit.

Looks like a pretty decently done conversion and a cheap car at the finish price.

Regarding feeling the turbo kicking in- It's running 0.3bar, I doubt you'll feel much regardless lol.
 
Well, picked up the car today, and compared to my old IS its got a hell of alot more poke..
Out of curiosity what sort of pressure can the 1g engine hold until i need to start looking at management, internal upgrades and all that?
 
The usual figure for 1GFE engines melting is above the 300 mark, which will be anywhere between 15-17 psi on an IS200 depending on how you've got it set up. Cooling is obviously going to make a bit of difference to how safe you can be at that power. If you haven't fitted a fuel return line already, it would be worth doing. The factory pump won't get you to 300hp so you will need to upgrade it anyway (if it's not done already).

Emanage should do for management, there are a few guides knocking about for fitting to an IS200. Forget upgrading the internals of the 1g-fe engine, it's a ridiculous amount of money for very little gain. If you're lucky enough to track one down, a 1G-GTE set of rods (and pistons if you want a lower comp ratio) will be a direct fit but they are extremely rare in this country.

The IS200 engines do quite well from some valve work once they are forced induction, which is another avenue you might want to pursue.
 
el_bandido said:
The usual figure for 1GFE engines melting is above the 300 mark, which will be anywhere between 15-17 psi on an IS200 depending on how you've got it set up. Cooling is obviously going to make a bit of difference to how safe you can be at that power. If you haven't fitted a fuel return line already, it would be worth doing. The factory pump won't get you to 300hp so you will need to upgrade it anyway (if it's not done already).
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I presume the FPR is on the inlet to the rail on these?(I should know this as I have one as my daily..)
Is the other end of the rail threaded ready for an outlet fitting? If so, you want to remove the FPR from the inlet and put one on the outlet/return instead..


Best way to get a 1ggte.. Buy a Mklll supra.. Was one on eBay for £500 lil while back..
Does the IS200 6spd box bolt straight on that GTE engine dude? And 1g in a gx90 chaser for example?
 
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Yes, the IS200 6 speed will bolt straight on to the 1G-GTE; Sparkystav has done exactly that. I'd definitely recommend using GTE internals in a GFE though, as that way you keep VVTI and can use the factory management + piggyback rather than a full standalone.

The GA70 supra was JDM only, so don't just pick up any mark 3 supra, or you'll probably end up with a 7M engine. Make sure it's an import 2.0.

Edit: It's also worth noting that you can take the single mass flywheel from the MK3 supra and use it on a 1g-fe, I think you need a different clutch though (i.e - not an IS200 clutch). From memory, the MK3 supra flywheel is about 8KG which is ideal for a daily, bit better acceleration than the IS200 dual mass and you won't lose too much smoothness/mpg on the motorway. The other option is the JUN lightweight, but they are quite expensive and a bit lighter.
 
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