87-D Corolla Levin GT Coupe RWD TURBO**FOR SALE**

[Miguel-Newera]

I remember seeing an SR20 engine'd silver AE86 in Jap Performance Classifieds about a year ago.... Stripped out... Was that the same one being discussed here?

Assuming so (As I watch every AE86 coming through auctions in Japan - Part of my job, see). it was a horrible absolute P.O.S.... !!!!

Just an SR20 botched into the space available with a prop shaft welded together by what looked like the skills of a first timer YTS student. Oh, the exhaust was comical too. The bodywork was so rubbish calling it a paintbotch would be more accurate than a paintjob.
Some poor bugger mustv'e eventually bought it thinking he'd found nirvana!

I'll give you 2 good reasons why a force fed 4AGZE isn't considered that good an idea compared to a properly built race N/A engine in an AE86. This is the thinking of specilist AE86 tuners such as Techno Pro Spirits who have built race cars in Japan for well over a decade:

1. Excess Weight results at the front, forward of the front cross member.
2. Turbo won't have a higher rev limit - Not as useful in racing, as there are more time losing gearchanges required.

Doesn't have the characteristic sound of a tuned 4AGE either.
I've seen a couple of turbo'd AE86's in Japan doing serious drifting, including one in D1, the others are all N/A for some reason.....

 

[Old Skool Cars]

I remember seeing an SR20 engine'd AE86 in Jap Performance Classifieds about a year ago.... Was that the same one being discussed here?

Assuming so (As I watch every AE86 coming through auctions in Japan - Part of my job, see). it was a horrible P.O.S.... !!

Just an SR20 botched into the space available with a prop shaft welded together by what looked like the skills of a first timer YTS student. Oh, the exhaust was comical too. Some poor bugger mustv'e eventually bought it thinking it was nirvana!

I'll give you 2 good reasons why a force fed 4AGZE isn't considered that good an idea compared to a properly built race N/A engine in an AE86. This is the thinking of specilist AE86 tuners such as Techno Pro Spirits who have built race cars in Japan for well over a decade:

1. Excess Weight results at the front, forward of the front cross member.
2. Turbo won't have a higher rev limit - Not as useful in racing, as there are more time losing gearchanges required.

Doesn't have the characteristic sound of a tuned 4AGE either.
I've seen a couple of turbo'd AE86's in Japan doing serious drifting, including one in D1, the others are all N/A for some reason...

WORD UP!!

 

[Damo-Opposite Lock]

ive seen two sr20 ae86s up to now...this sellers prev car being onr of them and to put it as we irish like to say.... "they both looked like the engine had been dropped from a very great height into her"

 

[CorollaRWD]

I'll give you 2 good reasons why a force fed 4AGZE isn't considered that good an idea compared to a properly built race N/A engine in an AE86. This is the thinking of specilist AE86 tuners such as Techno Pro Spirits who have built race cars in Japan for well over a decade:

1. Excess Weight results at the front, forward of the front cross member.
2. Turbo won't have a higher rev limit - Not as useful in racing, as there are more time losing gearchanges required.

Doesn't have the characteristic sound of a tuned 4AGE either.
I've seen a couple of turbo'd AE86's in Japan doing serious drifting, including one in D1, the others are all N/A for some reason.....

I dont believe this at all to be honest its down to personal taste and fashion and race regs. Why so many 20v swap when a 16v can make pretty much the same power? Fashion and tuners were doing it.
I would rather have a 200bhp turbo or SC 4agze than a 200bhp 1.6l NA for a street car any day of the week.
You won t add that much weight to the front by going FI, you will gain loads of torque something the 86 badly needs. Why do you need to rev to 10+k when you have low down torque.
Oh and generally to get say 180bhp is much cheaper to go FI over NA.
Only arguement you might have is the car loses character if you go FI

Alex

 

[Miguel-Newera]

I dont believe this at all to be honest its down to personal taste and fashion and race regs. Why so many 20v swap when a 16v can make pretty much the same power? Fashion and tuners were doing it.
I would rather have a 200bhp turbo or SC 4agze than a 200bhp 1.6l NA for a street car any day of the week.
You won t add that much weight to the front by going FI, you will gain loads of torque something the 86 badly needs. Why do you need to rev to 10+k when you have low down torque.
Oh and generally to get say 180bhp is much cheaper to go FI over NA.
Only arguement you might have is the car loses character if you go FI

Alex

It's okay, you have your turbo or whatever, I'll stick with my genuine 200 bhp N/A 4 Valve 4AGE, thanks

If you don't believe me, come to Japan and see properly tuned AE86's perform for yourself, or watch the AE86 Club DVD's - I think there are 10 in all.

I have a single turbo'd RX-7 with 420 bhp that I spent 4 years of spare time building to perfection. Built the AE86 over the last 12 months too....

Ever seen how quick a really tweaked V-Tec Honda is around the track? A CR-X Coupe with a 1.8 ITR engine and the right suspension mods is quick enough to beat some pretty serious machinery including Stripped out 450 bhp R32 GT-R's, Evo's and such... Try to think why that might be. It's got no turbo either but revs to 9K yet is only around 220 bhp.

I can safely say I have a fair amount of experience in cars, building for performance and racing, so I'm not speaking from just my own opinion.

I find the AE86 is more fun and a lot more of a challenge but much more rewarding on the track and despite being half the power, very quick with less than 1.5 seconds between it and my FD at Tsukuba. I'm aiming to bring that down to less than a second, as I tweak the AE86 further.

Go figure.

 

[CorollaRWD]

But we weren t talking about race cars, we were talking about cars and road cars for that matter, world apart from a out and out track car. I understand what you are saying about a race tuned NA around a track, light weight and as long you can keep them on the boil very fast. Like the R34 V two 86 vid to some extent.
I just think there is way too much hype about NA and 20v as the be all and end all. I think it stems from the tuners running race series and having to keep to a 1.6 platform.
I would love to go to japan and watch AE86 club races as I have only seen them on DVDs.
I wished I had gone ahead and built my high compression throttle bodied turbo engine now as I think that would have blown most NA corolla's off the track given the right driver. I think most of the turbo cars that are around are using old technology and the power delivery isn t very user friendly so the NA car smooth and instant power (in the rev range) would eat them alive and also allow the driver to feather the car more
So what did you think about your old 150ish bhp engine, not alot I would guess as you went for the techno build, where I think a 4agze standard engine would have been pretty good in most peoples eyes. Or take it to the other extreme 200bhp NA engine verus a standard SR20DET engine corolla I would say everyone would be faster and like the easy of the SR20.
I am speaking from my own opinion and from what I have learnt and what I have guessed
Not saying you are wrong overall just saying the above statement isn t entirely correct, especially for road cars.

 

[eircamae86]

turbo AE86's would be for gays if you owned a wanabe levin uk rust bucket!

you can do as many modifications as you like to your AE86, but without
a turbo you will always be second best.............

Fcuk off, typical W Yorks Grasshole

 

[AE86_TURBO]

But we weren t talking about race cars, we were talking about cars and road cars for that matter, world apart from a out and out track car. I understand what you are saying about a race tuned NA around a track, light weight and as long you can keep them on the boil very fast. Like the R34 V two 86 vid to some extent.
I just think there is way too much hype about NA and 20v as the be all and end all. I think it stems from the tuners running race series and having to keep to a 1.6 platform.
I would love to go to japan and watch AE86 club races as I have only seen them on DVDs.
I wished I had gone ahead and built my high compression throttle bodied turbo engine now as I think that would have blown most NA corolla's off the track given the right driver. I think most of the turbo cars that are around are using old technology and the power delivery isn t very user friendly so the NA car smooth and instant power (in the rev range) would eat them alive and also allow the driver to feather the car more
So what did you think about your old 150ish bhp engine, not alot I would guess as you went for the techno build, where I think a 4agze standard engine would have been pretty good in most peoples eyes. Or take it to the other extreme 200bhp NA engine verus a standard SR20DET engine corolla I would say everyone would be faster and like the easy of the SR20.
I am speaking from my own opinion and from what I have learnt and what I have guessed
Not saying you are wrong overall just saying the above statement isn t entirely correct, especially for road cars.

word up!

I remember seeing an SR20 engine'd silver AE86 in Jap Performance Classifieds about a year ago.... Stripped out... Was that the same one being discussed here?

Assuming so (As I watch every AE86 coming through auctions in Japan - Part of my job, see). it was a horrible absolute P.O.S.... !!!!

Just an SR20 botched into the space available with a prop shaft welded together by what looked like the skills of a first timer YTS student. Oh, the exhaust was comical too. The bodywork was so rubbish calling it a paintbotch would be more accurate than a paintjob.
Some poor bugger mustv'e eventually bought it thinking he'd found nirvana!

whatever the condition supposed to be, i made a tidy profit after having lots of fun!!!!!!!!!!!

Fcuk off, typical W Yorks Grasshole

eircamae86, your the sad git who bought that shed of a levin (c reg red/black) from one of my mates in keighley! let me tell you guys, my mate burned the clutch while he was playing number eights beore he sold it to eircamae86 and he still bought it!!!!!!!!

this car had horrible dull paintwork with some rust when it arrived from japan, he had it sprayed by a cowboy garage on a backstreet in keighley!

fcuk off for buying a shed from a typical w yorks grasshole!

 

[theholty]

word up!



whatever the condition supposed to be, i made a tidy profit after having lots of fun!!!!!!!!!!!



eircamae86, your the sad git who bought that shed of a levin (c reg red/black) from one of my mates in keighley! let me tell you guys, my mate burned the clutch while he was playing number eights beore he sold it to eircamae86 and he still bought it!!!!!!!!

this car had horrible dull paintwork with some rust when it arrived from japan, he had it sprayed by a cowboy garage on a backstreet in keighley!

fcuk off for buying a shed from a typical w yorks grasshole!

Oh, your cars are gonna be just flying off the forecourt after that, you've made you and your dealer mates sound really professional, its good to know your a true enthusiast and not a money grabbing cowboy, eh?
What an excellent way for you to put off a massive potential customer base, theres a good strong ae86 following on here and youve just shot yourself in the foot id say......

also, im possibly going to be in the market for an ae86 in the next month or so and you've just convinced me not to buy a cheap local (w.yorks) car if this is the mentality of the local dealers selling them

 

[gav-in-alaff]

AE86-TURBO,

You must be one of the guys mates who comes to ponty cruise.

http://media.putfile.com/ponty-teaser

Cowboys!!!

 

[gav-in-alaff]

yeh your right, there are alot of traders selling AE86's around
Bradford..........dont get me wrong, ive sold a few AE86's, but ive always
bought to keep and when another one comes along which i like, i sell my first one.

Now i'm only interested in highly modified AE86's TURBO/SUPERCHARGER/20V etc..........

might be getting a twin turbo AE86???????????

PMSL!!!

Your a trader TOO!

 

[AE86_TURBO]

Oh, your cars are gonna be just flying off the forecourt after that, you've made you and your dealer mates sound really professional, its good to know your a true enthusiast and not a money grabbing cowboy, eh?
What an excellent way for you to put off a massive potential customer base, theres a good strong ae86 following on here and youve just shot yourself in the foot id say......

also, im possibly going to be in the market for an ae86 in the next month or so and you've just convinced me not to buy a cheap local (w.yorks) car if this is the mentality of the local dealers selling them

come on, its only a clutch and some tyres! i dont think you know these cars
well................as for the condition, gods given you some eyes!!!!

also i did say my mates, didnt i?

gav-in-alaff, yep thats the lads, cowboys or not!!!!!!!

any more ponty ae86 vids?

 

[gav-in-alaff]

no more vids, although these two chaps are the only guys that keep that cruise going on, every other chav just drives up and down the road in their corsas with go faster neons...

tell ya wat, why dont you tag along with your mate to next weeks cruise and you can show us the difference from a standard and turbo ae86,

hows that?

gav

 

[AE86_TURBO]

tell ya wat, why dont you tag along with your mate to next weeks cruise and you can show us the difference from a standard and turbo ae86,

hows that?

gav

gav,

i know the lads are there every week.....me, ive been once before and cant
stand all the chavs in their dream cars!!!!!!!!

 

[Andy_F]

Hold on a minute... wasn't this a for sale thread?

And where are the damn pictures?!