After all your experiences with various drift cars, what car would you ideally have?

Several different online websites that have data for most production cars.

Funnily enough a very low Co efficient car is a Toyota prius

To add there are simple things to help the mx5s. First off the rear bumper is like a parachute, so cutting some of it down/adding holes helps.

A properly designed front splitter with side flares seems to help front end downforce, a hardtop helps slightly but a hardtop with a roof spoiler will help, as the back end of the car has basically a large void which renders most small spoilers useless
 
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We are not talking about downforce, we are talking about drag.
BTW I dunno where you get your figures, but being in the aviation industry the past 14 years I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that an mx5 will be more aerodynamic than an e36. that's real world experience, not google.
 
I ditched my sr'd s13 off for my mx5, there's something about those mazdas that's soo much fun. Most people slate them until they've driven them tbh. And like stav said, with a set of knuckles on the front it's like piloting a flea
 
Angelic0- said:
E24 with what M3 engine ??? If you're talking S5x engines... then no way.... rather put a S38 in it... or even a M70/73....
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Fuck off, it's my imaginary car combo. I'll do what i want! And yes, I'd have an S50B30 in it. Same output as an E24 M6. Balance is kept and it'll do the job lovely.
 
Ruishy1 said:
We are not talking about downforce, we are talking about drag.
BTW I dunno where you get your figures, but being in the aviation industry the past 14 years I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that an mx5 will be more aerodynamic than an e36. that's real world experience, not google.
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What makes you say it's more aerodynamic? E36 were designed in wind tunnels were they not? I remember reading that they were one of the few production cars of the time that used computer programs to help with the aerodynamics, at least the m3 was
 
zornyan said:
Mx5s are terrible aerodynamically speaking.

An e36 drag Co efficient is 0.33
Mx5 mk1 is 0.38
S13s for example are 0.30

So mx5s are considerably less aerodynamic,
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stop what your doing right now. turn the computer off, go out and get laid!
 
LMFAO! ^

Seriously.. this is drifting ffs.. Not a single person on here is going to take aero dynamics into consideration with this sport. What the fuck!

If we were setting times, we would be grip driving.. not drifting. This thread is for drifting so no more gay talk about mathes and wind tunnels and pointless shite.
 
neil a walker said:
Fuck off, it's my imaginary car combo. I'll do what i want! And yes, I'd have an S50B30 in it. Same output as an E24 M6. Balance is kept and it'll do the job lovely.
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An S50B30 would outperform a M88 in many ways... it's lighter for an example... it has more low-end... (VANOS).. and consumes less fuel..

S38 on the other hand... a B38... would be the perfect....
 
I still love my S13 with CA powers, done me proud for years. Drifted many many cars, but S13 chassis is just so nice and simple, Id say perfect really for skids and adjustment. I much prefer drifting low power cars because it forces you to drive better, and flat out constantly, which is just where its at for me ha ha.
 
If I may include my humble oppinion here. I started drifting Rookie on tracks in a Supra MK4 NA which stripped down to bare shell actually was a great learner. Being on tracks I was able to push my limits and the barge was very easy to control in the "slow" drifts.

I rapidly progressed as I attended pretty much every event available here in Denmark and soon found myself out of power. I could go NA-T or change car. I chose another car. A Skyline GTS-T build for PRO in Ireland with 380bhp. This has moved my limits even more and I have never driven anything that controlable. I have now sold my precious in order to buy a 350z which I hope will be just as rewarding to drive. ;)

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Have a nice day everyone:wave:
 
My signature tells the story. Built a nice s14 and did some trackdays. Loved it. Wanted to get into drifting but was scared I would crash it. So I bought an e36 325. Great car till the head gasket went, so I scrapped it and built the Rover of doom. Awesome car, got lots of comments. Did six drift days then it ate the prop shaft and I had some other niggles with it. So now im back in the s14. Going to start drifting that as I can almost hold a drift now!
 
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Stavros said:
As title really. Just out of interest as I been thinking the same.
Hindsight is 20-20, and no doubt most of us have done things, built cars, owned cars, that were nowhere near as good an idea as they seemed at the time, so after all your experiences with various cars and drifting, what car would/should you have built, and why?

I've had loads, from massive ones to tiny ones, from posh ones to hardcore ones, from powerful ones to slow as hell ones, from cheap shitters to big bucks money pits, and I think I know what I want now.

For me, it probably sounds shit to most people with their big ideas and dreams, but I'd have a 1.8 Mk1 MX5 with a turbo.
I had a Cossie powered MX5, which I'd prefer even more, but I bought that done, and the work to do that conversion would be a ballache, and engine conversions ALWAYS cause problems, even if the engine you putting in is WAY better than the original, so I'd use the original 1.8 BP engine rather than some badass V8 or whatever.

Reason I'd choose an MX5 is, with modified hubs especially, they're simply the most go-kart like car there is, nothing has turn-in like a MX5 with decent hubs. Even my FC, which is a very small light car, with like a massive barge compared to one.
Have always happily kept up with cars with 3+ times the power when drifting with shitbox 1.6 MX5s- They tick all the boxes for fun.

Another reason is they're basic, strong, and parts are ten a penny. Had more seat time in MX5s than everything else I've had put together I think, and with the mods I'd do I don't think that'd change.

I hate the looks, but I don't care about looks anymore really. As long as you don't modify a car to look shitter than standard like so many people do, keeping them standard looking is fine in my eyes. It will look like an MX5, just a bit lower.

I'd want it as a daily, so while creature comforts I don't care about, a carpet and trim I'd want- Not fully stripped.
I'd prefer not to have a cage, but for Pembrey GP track you need to, so a cage it is.

I'd have normal 7x15s or whatever with 195 or 205s on it- I don't want loads of grip.

Only thing that I've ever found lacking on MX5s was power. Not for drifting on track, never in fact, but for on the street generally going fast or smoking the place out. My Cossie one was 270bhp, and keeping up with superbikes to 160mph in it, and generally rinsing everything else on the road in a standardish looking car was ace fun, but one thing that car taught me was the chassis could easily handle a LOT more, 400bhp would do me I think in a car that light.

A built (pistons, rods, etc) 1.8 BP engine with a GTX28 could bash out 400bhp with good low down power and reliability too, so that'd be ideal. Anti-lag too. Gearboxes aren't too bad at that power either. Diffs maybe break, maybe not, but that's no big deal to sort on them.
I'd mod the cooling, mostly getting air in/out the car, like I did on the Cossie one, and that's reliability sorted.
The exhaust would be as quiet as I could make an unrestrictive 3in+ system be on one too- Noise is gay.
Engine management would be something good, and most importantly fitted and mapped by someone big time. No corners cut at all.

For the handling, they need cock all- Decent coilovers, rod ends, modified hubs, decent geometry, bushes, welded diff, done.

Inside just a smaller steering wheel and drivers bucket seat will do.

With the no weight and skinny tyres for the power (but not for the car) it will handle mint but on the power just be a smoke machine even at big big speeds.

The car should be fairly cheap, do everything I want, reliabile, subtle/sleeper. Done.

Could daily it, drive it to drift days and back, and as I'd not have spent a fortune I could afford a decent trailer to take it places too.

The end. TBH some of my thoughts/wants might sound odd, so if you wonder why I haven't gone for a turbo V8, or haven't done whatever, just ask.

Hopefully people have some interesting ones, as no doubt everyones had a few nightmares over time lol.
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Hi

Firstly great thread idea!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading a post from you before stating that a supercharged mx5 would be better for drifting than a turbo. So my question is, why wouldn't your ideal drifter be a supercharged mx5, instead of the turbo? Is it purely because getting 400 bhp on a supercharged 1.8 BP engine would be a bit of a push?

Just got rid of my mx5 :( I am a noob when it comes to car experience but the day I put Gaz Gold Pro suspension in my mx5, the handling was transformed and it did feel very much like driving an over sized, under powered go kart! Any way check out this vid of what we did to my mx5:
 
Hi there.

Yes, to drift, supercharged is way better, there's guys on here with vids of them easily drifting in 4th in MX5s with only just over 200bhp with their supercharged ones, and my old Merc with only ~230bhp drifted as well as cars I've had with tons more power due to how superchargers deliver power.

The problem is, a 400bhp 1.8-2ltr turbo engine is fairly easy, and can be reliable too, and drive well.
A supercharged 400bhp one isn't so easy to say the least.
 
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