BMW 325i - A drift car that I can also drive to the track?
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Please... fit 245 up front and 275 in the back of a Miata 1.8iS and show me how you do mad 50mph drifts....
Because i know i can make it happen in a 325i with enough entry speed, perharps a clutch kick.... the MX5 will just grip...
Really, what is so hard to understand ???
The MX5 with a set of proper tires will only grip....
325i > 200SX (SR20DET) > MX5, this is the order i would be looking in...
Really don't want to get involved but it needs to be set straight i suppose.
This sounds spot on.
In very simple terms, no it won't. It will be harder to drift of course, but it will skid with commitment, speed and huge nads. If in your experience you have had a different scenario it's not the car you should be blaming.
This sounds spot on.
In very simple terms, no it won't. It will be harder to drift of course, but it will skid with commitment, speed and huge nads. If in your experience you have had a different scenario it's not the car you should be blaming.
Ok, post a video of a MX5 with Toyo R888s all around....
take two laps to warm up... and see if it will skid...
do the same with the 325i... no matter it's weight...
the BP engine in the MX5 lacks 100nm on the M50B25.... and with VANOS the M50 will have more down low...
even the BPT turbo engine still lacks 50nm and 20hp to be in the same category... although 20hp may not have great effect... considering weight.... the 50nm will...
with both engines you can buy a ebay turbo kit... wich will cost the same in the end... but i don't see the BP engine making 500hp on stock internals...
take two laps to warm up... and see if it will skid...
do the same with the 325i... no matter it's weight...
the BP engine in the MX5 lacks 100nm on the M50B25.... and with VANOS the M50 will have more down low...
even the BPT turbo engine still lacks 50nm and 20hp to be in the same category... although 20hp may not have great effect... considering weight.... the 50nm will...
with both engines you can buy a ebay turbo kit... wich will cost the same in the end... but i don't see the BP engine making 500hp on stock internals...
Gh0st
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My advice would be to start with a mx5.
Learning to drift an under powered car hones your skills as it requires a lot more driver input to make it skid.
I started to drift in an e36 m3, great cars, reliable with fast chassis but when you start drifting with power, the car does the work for you and you don't learn as much. If I had to do it again I would choose a mx5.
If you watch the lads in ae86s and mx5s they're working hard in them and look to be having the most fun out there!
Learning to drift an under powered car hones your skills as it requires a lot more driver input to make it skid.
I started to drift in an e36 m3, great cars, reliable with fast chassis but when you start drifting with power, the car does the work for you and you don't learn as much. If I had to do it again I would choose a mx5.
If you watch the lads in ae86s and mx5s they're working hard in them and look to be having the most fun out there!
docwra
Active Member
No it wont, you will just be going faster when you initiate a drift, which is a good thing. The other point is that as an MX5 is smaller and lighter than an E36 it doesnt need such wide tyres to generate the grip in the first place, this is why you dont find them running 275's very much.
Id have thought this was fairly obvious, like how the MX5 weighs 200KG less so can still go fast with less power. Again, youd have thought that was obvious but ........
And this is why you see so many 325i's in D1GP and Formula D. Honestly man, step away from the keyboard.
Ruishy1
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quoted for truth
lol yeah forum threads do always seem to end in arguments... but hey, I've still got some useful information from this thread so its not all bad 
I agree with what people have said about learning in an MX5 probably making you a better drifter, and if I was going to be doing this all the time and wanting to compete etc then yeah that's what I would go for. But I've been spoilt by starting out in an M3 on my first drift day and I'm just looking to have a bit of sideways fun every now and then, rather than wanting to become the world's best drifter.
So I've ended up buying another E92 M3 because I know that I loved every minute of driving that on the drift track last time, and I can use it as a daily driver and comfortably drive to and from a track etc as well. So its the best of both worlds for me... or at least until I accidentally smash it up trying to drift and then can't use it as a daily driver lol
I agree with what people have said about learning in an MX5 probably making you a better drifter, and if I was going to be doing this all the time and wanting to compete etc then yeah that's what I would go for. But I've been spoilt by starting out in an M3 on my first drift day and I'm just looking to have a bit of sideways fun every now and then, rather than wanting to become the world's best drifter. So I've ended up buying another E92 M3 because I know that I loved every minute of driving that on the drift track last time, and I can use it as a daily driver and comfortably drive to and from a track etc as well. So its the best of both worlds for me... or at least until I accidentally smash it up trying to drift and then can't use it as a daily driver lol
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zornyan
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Actually wtf is going on here. I for one call bullshit on this thread. You've managed to blag about not wanting to spend money, then say you was gonna buy a several thousand pound mx5. Then you ignore everyone's advice l. Now apparently you went and got an e92 to go drift in.
Which quite frankly is a shite beginner car, that it anything happens to is gonna cost thousands to put right.
Which quite frankly is a shite beginner car, that it anything happens to is gonna cost thousands to put right.
None of it is bullshit... Yes I started off looking at cheap cars and didn't want to spend much money, then test drove an MX5 and decided I wasn't going to be happy with one of those so started looking at other options and the option I finally settled on was trading my current daily driver and my Lotus Elise in for an E92 M3. I honestly didn't expect anyone on here to get so insulting and angry over my choice and I'm sorry it seems to offend you all so much... but it is not bullshit. I've already booked the drift day at Oulton on the 10th in it, so maybe I'll see some of you there.
Oh and yes it probably is a shit beginners car for someone wanting to learn to drift, but I'm just planning to do the occasional drift day and also use it as my daily driver, and it seems to me like it fits that criteria perfectly. Also as for it costing thousands to put right - I did a drift day in my previous E92 M3 last year and that didn't cost me a penny to fix anything. I'm well aware that it is a risk taking it to a drift day or any kind of track day but I'm willing to accept that risk and surely that is up to me, not for you guys to all judge me over?
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What is going on here? I was saying the 325 is ready for more Action on the same price.
Or is it not?
It's no fun to me to have the most underpowered thing you can probably get. Sometimes you need just some power if the track has some grip. Then people with the most powerful cars here telling beginners to have a mx5. Why not a Daihatsu copen? You probably haven't been in a miata for a while and you pretend it's a lotus. But it's not.
I skidded, I'm skidding and I say it's much easier in a E36, now and in future when you gain skills. What is wrong with that?
Or is it not?
It's no fun to me to have the most underpowered thing you can probably get. Sometimes you need just some power if the track has some grip. Then people with the most powerful cars here telling beginners to have a mx5. Why not a Daihatsu copen? You probably haven't been in a miata for a while and you pretend it's a lotus. But it's not.
I skidded, I'm skidding and I say it's much easier in a E36, now and in future when you gain skills. What is wrong with that?