cefiro_drifta
Mad pointing Munky
what problems would it be eliminating ?
can get air locking diffs in the states
can get air locking diffs in the states
cefiro_drifta
Mad pointing Munky
not getting in to anything here as its been covered more times than a hotel bed but you can and are allowed to drive normally using an LSD, 1 way, 1.5 way, 2 way and a welded diff every day
Stavros
Active Member
Eh? Nothing to do with power. And how will a diff locker help you?
A load of effort over a welder just to stop if shuffling a little on sub-10mph tight turns.
And then you left with a shit open diff which is crap for traction in fast road use.
cefiro_drifta
Mad pointing Munky
unsubscribing right now
but there are problems at higher speeds, especially in wet conditions, it would allow use as a normal car like lsd would but easier to drift with
m.d.
Active Member
Don't worry dude your bang on and it's a cracking idea. It's just this is bandwagon territory and everyone will just say you need to "man up" and that it drives fine. Which is obviously utter tripe.
You would be stopping things like.....
Excessive bushing wear
Excessive noise
Diff bearing damage
Driveshaft damage (CVs take a beating)
The understeer issue that is obvious when trying to push on in conditions that don't allow you to drive sideways.
Knocking when parking and needing to use extra throttle. Not ideal when leaving for work at 6 in the morning when the car is your daily too.
I've always wondered if a locking diff off a landy would be able to be fitted. But I've never looked to actually see how they lock.
The only thing is. If you get something like a two way diff. Although they still scuff when parking. They are not as harsh as a welder so are perfectly acceptable on a daily driver. So it's a problem that already has an easy fix.
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thanks for backing me here, i knew there were more issues but i myself have never had a welded diff so didn't know.
Alex, there already are diffs that can do this, not too expensive as well, just not sure if it'll work out and if anyone has tried it before.
forgive my spelling errors, had a collision on my motorbike last saturday and my right hand is out for some time
Alex B
Active Member
Are you talking performance car diffs or 4x4 and tractor diffs? We've got one on our tractor but the working/mechanism appears to be huge and not suitable for a 'race' car. Not ever looked at 4x4 diffs in any detail though which are almost certainly smaller!
I doubt it'd be as straight forward as fitting a 4x4 diff into a car though, especially as they'll be really low geared. To be honest diffs are out of my comfort zone but it does all sound like a lot of development work to do it properly!
Alex B
I doubt it'd be as straight forward as fitting a 4x4 diff into a car though, especially as they'll be really low geared. To be honest diffs are out of my comfort zone but it does all sound like a lot of development work to do it properly!
Alex B
Stavros
Active Member
Yes, in THEORY all of those things happen.
In REALITY how much extra wear does it produce?
I've never had an issue, and going by the lack of threads mentioning it, it dont seem like others do either.
And if your neigbours or anyone else can hear the fact you got a welder from inside their house, i presume you have a standard exhaust and they have amazing hearing.
Its not like everyone saying its fine and man up are guessing, they all do it!
Alex B
Active Member
I think he's on about the neighbours hearing because he needs extra revs to turn tightly. It's a fair point but again is it enough to warrant a fancy diff?
Does anyone actually know what happens when you hit the diff lock switch/lever whatever in a 4x4?
Alex B
m.d.
Active Member
No theory. Just personal experience between my and several friends cars. I've had to change bushes. Driveshafts. Had diff bearings exploded and locked the rear axle solid.
And the understeer was unbearable when using the car for fast road in both my e36 and s13.
It could well be coincidence that all these things failed within a few months of having the welded diff. But I very much doubt it.
I do agree with others that it may well be a fruitless exercise as there is already the cure of diffs that can be had easily on the market. And getting a landy diff to fit something other than a landy would not be cheap. Even if it did work.
Cowpatmatt
Active Member
diff lock on a standard land rover only locks the centre diff. to lock the front or rear diff how you want it you will have to buy an air locker diff. for the same cost just buy a proper lsd.
I have had welded diffs, open diffs, 1.5way diffs ect.. never been a real problem on the road apart from I hate welded diffs for drifting.
On my 300zx I am still running the stock nissan LSD and no I have not put shims in either, but when I need upgrade my welder will be no where near it. 2-way only please.
I have had welded diffs, open diffs, 1.5way diffs ect.. never been a real problem on the road apart from I hate welded diffs for drifting.
On my 300zx I am still running the stock nissan LSD and no I have not put shims in either, but when I need upgrade my welder will be no where near it. 2-way only please.
Stavros
Active Member
You must be the unluckiest person alive.
Agreed, welder ok as a cheap temporary solution but 2way for me please..... Or 1.5 way if you feel you are getting understeer in the wet too much with a 2 way during fast road/grip
I had an ARB Air locker on a toyota pick up , The compressor and all the electrics and airlines probabbly weigh the same as a standard diff ,Its a lot of weight and expense to add for a problem that does not realy exist in my eyes , buy a two way and tell your neighbours to man up