Drifting with open diff?

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Maxevaaans

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Okay so I got an E82 120i and no matter how hard i try (in the dry) i cannot get the back end out and yes i blame it on the driver :wave:

i was wondering if anyone could give me some tips, i should be able to have some fun i only have 170bhp but its enough to get tail happy i should imagine so has anyone got any ideas/techniques such as clutch kicks i want to know

how to drift when in first coming out from a junction (on a private road)

how to drift around cones layed out in a roundabout style

how to drift at mediocore/low speed

as you can tell im quite new to this so go easy on me
 
So you know you have an open diff but you're still pretty keen for peel outs.

Get an lsd sorted and then take yourself off somewhere where you can learn these things off the road.
 
Ollie said:
So you know you have an open diff but you're still pretty keen for peel outs.

Get an lsd sorted and then take yourself off somewhere where you can learn these things off the road.
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Come to think of it peel outs wont work with an open diff will they?

im looking at getting a E36 next year which I will make drift ready, so putting an LSD in my E82 isnt where i was headed i just wanna have some fun with an open diff im just not knowledgable enough to know what i can and cant do and how its done
 
Maxevaaans said:
Come to think of it peel outs wont work with an open diff will they?

im looking at getting a E36 next year which I will make drift ready, so putting an LSD in my E82 isnt where i was headed i just wanna have some fun with an open diff im just not knowledgable enough to know what i can and cant do and how its done
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Why not put an LSD in the E82? It's not gonna harm the resale value, and you could put the original back in when it comes to sale, then sell the LSD.
Or a welder?

You'll wrap it anyway, which will harm the resale value.
 
Oooh, hello again :D

The only straight fit diff on an E82 that easy to get hold of is the quaife and you dont really want that for drifting, otherwise its fabrication work or fitting E92 subframes, neither of which is to be taken lightly. That said, an open diff is shit for any kind of slidey slidey, realsitically your best bet is to buy the E36 sooner ;)
 
My advice is, Stop wasting your time and energy drifting with an Open diff. Its only going to work if you know what your doing and you dont. So weld it and try again.

:)
 
Siding an e36 with an open diff is a completely different, unpredictable experience when compared to a welder.

It feels unsafe to slide an open diff, even if you buy a spare diff, weld it up and keep the original for when you sell the car...
 
due to using my car as a daily and taking daughter around in it i cant bring myself to weld the diff untill i have a second car ready, my only input is in the wet you can still get the back end out with an open diff. alot of people on here wont class it as proper drifting but i can hold it side ways for a good few laps of a roundabout and thats with no real experiance at all. oh and im in an e36 coupe
 
I've got an old E36 with an open diff & no traction control & I it drifts just fine. I'm sure an LSD would make it better though, but I don't understand the OP saying he can't get the back end out... Why would you even have an FR car if you couldn't?

That's just my opinion.
 
The best thing you could try to do with an open diff is to drift in the rain in a roundabout, the wider the better. You could try to initiate the drift either with a clutch kick or by handbrake. Once you get the hang of it you could try to transition in and out of the roundabout. That's how I started....
 
Agreed, getting the back out and drifting are two VERY different things indeed... With an open diff you just get to the point where the inside wheel is spinning and essentially have no control over said "drift". Still, doesn't mean you can't have some fun!!!

I used to have an e36 compact with open diff, this was the first RWD car I had. . . When I first started "drifting" it a bit here's what I did.

Find a nice roundabout with a fair bit of run off on the exit so if you do go round more than you'd like you don't twat a curb, go into the round about fairly quickly and as you're accelerating round/through the round about just quickly dip the clutch and straight back up again to un settle the rear end but keep accelerating... You should now be "drifting", obviously steer where you need to go and drive off feeling awesome (hopefully) when you do start "drifting" keep the throttle on (not too much) otherwise you'll most likely buck the way you're steering which will probably be the curb at this point!

It's easier in the wet, you have to be a lot more aggressive in the dry. I actually ripped my engine from it's mounts doing it in the dry! lol Start off slow and gentle (that's what she said) while you build up your confidence and get the feel a bit... But as said, you will never be able to properly drift with an open diff.
 
If someone wants to give any better advice of how he can have some fun with an open diff, then feel free...

But until now everyone was basically saying "don't fucking bother" and generally being a bit neggy.

I did fucking bother and this is how I first started getting used to it when I had an open diff - It was good fun and a good enough introduction to going sideways...
 
You've just told an absolute beginner with 10K's worth of car to go an "learn" on a public roundabout when his car is patently not up to the job. Sure, you can go sideways in anything but if its got an open diff not with any real control ........ which is the point of drifting.

As for ripping your engine off the mounts, you sure you didnt blow the welds on your intake at the same time?
 
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