are ca's really that unreliable?
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RED
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Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh CA18det/Sr20det/redtop/blacktop/ blah blah whats the point in fighting over which is best?
They are all different!
Its impossible to compare a 2ltr red-top to a 1.8 CA
Clarkey you love sr's theres no point in fighting with you!
To the rest, EACH AND EVERY ENGINE IS DIFFERENT!
Ive driven everything from V8 to 5.5hp Kart. Im no superman!
but its impossible to compare ca/sr/rb etc, each and every engine reacts differently to the drivers input.
Ive said it before
ca = high revving fun
sr= reliable fun
rb = your getting Raped like it or not fun!!!
People does it matter? Do what suits you and stop complaining about others!
They are all different!
Its impossible to compare a 2ltr red-top to a 1.8 CA
Clarkey you love sr's theres no point in fighting with you!
To the rest, EACH AND EVERY ENGINE IS DIFFERENT!
Ive driven everything from V8 to 5.5hp Kart. Im no superman!
but its impossible to compare ca/sr/rb etc, each and every engine reacts differently to the drivers input. Ive said it before
ca = high revving fun
sr= reliable fun
rb = your getting Raped like it or not fun!!!
People does it matter? Do what suits you and stop complaining about others!
Boo_kong
aka boo_kong
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh CA18det/Sr20det/redtop/blacktop/ blah blah whats the point in fighting over which is best?
They are all different!
Its impossible to compare a 2ltr red-top to a 1.8 CA
Clarkey you love sr's theres no point in fighting with you!
To the rest, EACH AND EVERY ENGINE IS DIFFERENT!
Ive driven everything from V8 to 5.5hp Kart. Im no superman!
Ive said it before
ca = high revving reliable fun
sr= reliable fun with annoying vvt rattle
rb = your getting Raped like it or not fun!!! < I
People does it matter? Do what suits you and stop complaining about others!
i had to do the little correction
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My last car was a CA and my car now is an SR, both to a similar spec give or take a few bits. Both forged and both running T28's.
The SR is a better set up engine though, and is more refined. It definately produces far more torque all the way through the torque band at much less revs. However the CA loved to rev all the way up to the limiter, and never died off.
If i had to choose, id take the SR purely for the easy torque and earlier spool up, but theres no reason you cant build a CA to make torque. Power wise they make seem to make similar figures.
If i had a CA engined car, and it went pop, i wouldnt SR it though, id forge the CA. Would cost around the same as an average SR swap.
The SR is a better set up engine though, and is more refined. It definately produces far more torque all the way through the torque band at much less revs. However the CA loved to rev all the way up to the limiter, and never died off.
If i had to choose, id take the SR purely for the easy torque and earlier spool up, but theres no reason you cant build a CA to make torque. Power wise they make seem to make similar figures.
If i had a CA engined car, and it went pop, i wouldnt SR it though, id forge the CA. Would cost around the same as an average SR swap.
Snorky Brother G
Member
fuck ca in the chuffer with a big tranny cock, i got death rattle tonight wow great thanks.
superclarkey
DORITECH MOTORSPORT
Clarkey, whos engine lasted this season, mine or yours?
Who finished 6th only attending threes rounds, me or you?
pmsl, i'm fairly sure if i drove your car as aggressivly as i did my own your CA may have something to say about it... AND i was running 400bhp on a stock motor and very sticky tyres
SteveC200
Used to drift, now I don't.
Who finished 6th only attending threes rounds, me or you?
pmsl, i'm fairly sure if i drove your car as aggressivly as i did my own your CA may have something to say about it... AND i was running 400bhp on a stock motor and very sticky tyres
Ahh, so nothing to do with your abilities as a driver then, its just because you have an SR. I guess thats what you are saying otherwise the comment is irrelevant in a thread about engines.
Just think, maybe if you'd had my CA you could have finished the season and won it.......Or do you mean I pussy foot my 360bhp CA compared to your manly testosterone fuelled drift technique? Grrrrrr.
superclarkey
DORITECH MOTORSPORT
Either will do ha ha
jap scrap
Active Member
I have to disagree with that i killed 2 of them. piece of dirt of a engine to soft might be ok for girls like eileen
eileen
Member
I have to disagree with that i killed 2 of them. piece of dirt of a engine to soft might be ok for girls like eileen
if your out to kill them then obviously you'll manage
you can kill any engine. even ca's with the good strong genes to
which mine and a couple of others count.
btw, your comment would mean your calling the guys on here that drive
healthy ca's and like them pussies
DRIFT POLICE
Member
not that i know fuckall about ca18 engines but i was lucky enough to go out with helli pilot at llandow and the car and driver was fucking awsome as with any engine its how you look after them that counts chat to some guys at drift days to see how thay go
Shorty
Member
Awww, Bless ya'. You're so funny when you're grumpy mate
You make me chuckle...I do think you're over reacting just a wee bit... you'd hurt your winky stuffing it up a CA
While this may be hilarious for the rest of us, i suspect it'd be somewhat painful from you point of view..
Chunky Nugget
honkeytits!!
.........what happened to yours lol
Yeah, 156,000 miles bitch!!
playworker
Member
I've owned and modified both CA and SR, both of them in the same shell too. The SR feels better in the S13 because of the extra torques, mine was also more reliable but only because the cheap mods on the CA failed at bad times - cheap manifolds suck.
CA has a better head design, SR "fully" counterweighted crank is bollocks, if you do the maths there's no advantage to having the extra counterweights, all it enables is a shorter block/sump as there's less "throw" to the counterweights.
All the "disadvantages" of the CA listed here also apply to the RB, difference is the RBs are imported and JDM imports seem to be looked after better than UK CAs which have almost all been abused through lack of oil changes.
IMHO the reason CAs have a bad rep is that they're capable of taking more abuse than the SR. In the SR lack of oil changes will block the spray bars which fucks the cam and then the bottom end, this will generally happen pretty quickly and at a low mileage. In the CA the head design is less sensitive so it lasts longer initially with crap servicing until the bottom end suddenly dies.
I doubt anyone here has had a CA from new so there's no way anyone can possibly comment on the servicing it had before they got it, a lot of the people slagging them have only had one which died and that was with an unknown history. Pretty harsh TBH
Mine lasted for 95k before I sold it and for the last 20k it was running a cheap T3 & manifold and 1.3 bar boost. Bottom end was always 100% although I had the facelift valve-wear issue and I killed a pattern HG through excessive boost
CA has a better head design, SR "fully" counterweighted crank is bollocks, if you do the maths there's no advantage to having the extra counterweights, all it enables is a shorter block/sump as there's less "throw" to the counterweights.
All the "disadvantages" of the CA listed here also apply to the RB, difference is the RBs are imported and JDM imports seem to be looked after better than UK CAs which have almost all been abused through lack of oil changes.
IMHO the reason CAs have a bad rep is that they're capable of taking more abuse than the SR. In the SR lack of oil changes will block the spray bars which fucks the cam and then the bottom end, this will generally happen pretty quickly and at a low mileage. In the CA the head design is less sensitive so it lasts longer initially with crap servicing until the bottom end suddenly dies.
I doubt anyone here has had a CA from new so there's no way anyone can possibly comment on the servicing it had before they got it, a lot of the people slagging them have only had one which died and that was with an unknown history. Pretty harsh TBH
Mine lasted for 95k before I sold it and for the last 20k it was running a cheap T3 & manifold and 1.3 bar boost. Bottom end was always 100% although I had the facelift valve-wear issue and I killed a pattern HG through excessive boost
Snorky Brother G
Member
I've owned and modified both CA and SR, both of them in the same shell too. The SR feels better in the S13 because of the extra torques, mine was also more reliable but only because the cheap mods on the CA failed at bad times - cheap manifolds suck.
CA has a better head design, SR "fully" counterweighted crank is bollocks, if you do the maths there's no advantage to having the extra counterweights, all it enables is a shorter block/sump as there's less "throw" to the counterweights.
All the "disadvantages" of the CA listed here also apply to the RB, difference is the RBs are imported and JDM imports seem to be looked after better than UK CAs which have almost all been abused through lack of oil changes.
IMHO the reason CAs have a bad rep is that they're capable of taking more abuse than the SR. In the SR lack of oil changes will block the spray bars which fucks the cam and then the bottom end, this will generally happen pretty quickly and at a low mileage. In the CA the head design is less sensitive so it lasts longer initially with crap servicing until the bottom end suddenly dies.
I doubt anyone here has had a CA from new so there's no way anyone can possibly comment on the servicing it had before they got it, a lot of the people slagging them have only had one which died and that was with an unknown history. Pretty harsh TBH
Mine lasted for 95k before I sold it and for the last 20k it was running a cheap T3 & manifold and 1.3 bar boost. Bottom end was always 100% although I had the facelift valve-wear issue and I killed a pattern HG through excessive boost
you sir have swayed me
short shift
Member
playworker yours is the best response so far
makes everyone elses a bit
makes everyone elses a bit
DRIFT POLICE
Member
as with any tool iys how you use it that counts