Julian Barnes: Thief - Severnside imports - Achilles Tire - Low Brain Drifters

coley said:
This thread is absolutely pathetic, Julian is a good friend of mine and you lot live less than an hour away, like one of you couldn't drive down and talk face to face with him about this ( I.e you phil ) instead of writing it on your own forum...

Funny how Matt at pure performance has ripped people off left right and centre and fucked people's cars up which other people have had to fix and to you still had him as a trader on your site!

I know as much as the next person on this situation but putting it on a forum is stupid!!

My advice is simple.. Be a man and go talk to him in person.. Resolve this properly not puttin it over the net.
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I don't think you are understanding this.
I will put it in stupid terms for you.

Phil is going to call the debt as a loss! This means nothing more shall be said about it but everyone else who is trust worthy suffer if they ever want/need a favour from phil as his trust has been thrown back at him.

Phil is warning people about your buddy so others don't get ripped off by him, but then it all comes to light as to how many people your mate has actually ripped off.

Read the posts before commenting.
 
Paying that much upfront for second hand car that isnt in the country is fucking dumb? Or did i missread something.

However i bought a car from a description also. It was 4.5k i paid a grand deposit and rest on pickup.

How could anyone possibly do it any other way. Ie risking 90percent of the purchase price.
 
hey
i have all emails....he stole money
he disappeared
i was at his home
nothing

he is a bastard, if he is your friend, well so give me back my money and after ask to your great friend.
YOU ARE PATHETIC! PATHETIC FRIEND OF ROBBER!!
 
just read through both, and all i can say is holy fucking shit !
There are FAR to many fanboys on this site jumping to defend a guy who OBVIOUSLY ripped people off for large sums of money, not just life got in the way and there was delays etc, he BLATANTLY ripped them off.

There is no way to defend it and i applaud the OP on the other thread for not finding him and setting fire to him, as TBH im not a violent person in any way, shape or form but if i had been ripped of for 14k i would imagine that would change
 
I would just like to point out in light of all this crap lately that I have never once had a terrible experience dealing with anyone in the drift community. I've been into this now for going on 7 years, bought and sold countless parts and used multiple businesses - not once have a been in a situation where I have been shafted. The closest I came to having trouble was when I used Matt when he was TJZ to have my Chaser converted to manual - which I believe was the first in the UK at the time - but because I local, kept myself involved and went down multiple times it all worked out perfect for me in the end. I buy and sell parts from people I know, or people that have been around for a long time for and have not had any dodgy stories.

I guess what I'm trying to say is... there are a fuck load of good people and good businesses in drifting. I'd like to point out for example Mitch at Driftgarage, who silently gets on with brilliant work, never heard a bad thing said about him and have used him myself before. Do you hear people shouting from the rooftops how brilliant he is? No you fucking don't. In the 6+ years I've been buying parts from Driftworks I have only ever had perfect service - I would not have agreed to become a moderator for a company I have not personally used A LOT and support the way they do business. Instead, You get chumps like Barnes being bellends to everyone and giving the sport - and at the end of the day, most importantly, the COMMUNITY a bad rep.

Make friends. Buy stuff off them. Sell stuff to them. Use reputable members - there's enough of us. Use proper companies - old saying, there's no smoke without fire and it always seems to ring true.
 
correct but i gave to Barnes over 150.000 gbp
i trusted hime and he fucked us at last car!

how can we pay attention!?!?!? Proper company? he used severside also as sponsor, and we discovered that was already close to late!
so 23.000 gone for keep this BIG PIG full of KIEV.
The problem is that has not an house, he is hos of his disperate housegirlfirend.
 
FireStorm999 said:
Paying that much upfront for second hand car that isnt in the country is fucking dumb? Or did i missread something.

However i bought a car from a description also. It was 4.5k i paid a grand deposit and rest on pickup.

How could anyone possibly do it any other way. Ie risking 90percent of the purchase price.
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It was the standard way to import cars, we generally paid 50% upfront, then when the shipping paperwork, (can't remember the tech term), was faxed, with our name on, the other 50% would be sent, then the original documents would be sent. That was the only way to import cars, without going through an import company. We did it many times and never really had a problem, (other than shipping companies damaging bumpers, stealing gearknobs etc), but that was way back when people in the scene were trustworthy and capable of earning their money through honesty.

Alex B
 
Lots a people done that with other companies and that just make even more harder to a genuine drivers get sponsors, that will make even harder, sorry heard that Phil.
 
Your lucky to just have the problem with geomasters...

Wow your guys are lucky, Fancy doing a swap for the bits i brought for a certain car last year ? ? ?
 
also someone was trying to give out business lessons before turnover blah blah blah

If you were a good business man you would know the golden rule.

Turnover is Vanity, Profit is sanity, Cash is reality.
 
theres some full on retards out there.
its a massive shame, the drift community used to be a big family, it still kinda is... everyone hates each other, everyone argues... just like christmas!
 
akinadan79 said:
Clearly I didn't just hand payment on the basis of a cyber advert, emails to-from Stephen Hemsley and Julian Barnes

and I insisted on paying in person once I'd confirmed that the ebay seller wasn't some thieving monkey operating via the internet from Somalia

I had confirmation by e-mail that the seller knew the car personally and that it was built to a top standard, now apart from jumping on a flight to Japan I'm pretty sure I did as much as I could under the circumstances


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but hey ho, I was nieve and it cost me


Pass on my regards
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Seriously dude I feel for you, can't imagine loosing that sort of money in one hit. I've made plenty of mistakes in life taking people's word for things, life is a cunt but it shouldn't be.

initial_j said:
are you a bit simple or something?

or did you just not read that thread?

simple facts, REGARDLESS of wether the car/advert was decent, or what condition of the car was:
The buyer handed over 15,000 POUNDS and hasnt got A SINGLE PENNY BACK OR THE CAR

£15,000.

£15,000 and NOTHING back. in case you missed it. with no reasonable explanation.

he provided pages of "clear cut evidence" its not slander. its in black and white for you to read.

As for the dworks issue, i think its safe to say that phil probably has earnt enough through honest sales and work not to be that arsed about the financial loss of a set of geomasters, but more the principle of it.

If the above serves as free advertising and makes people want to get work done/cars imported at severnside then honestly im hanging up my driving gloves and walking away from this sport!


on another note to flip things, ive met julian and he seemed pretty sound so got no personal reason not to like him, however that doesnt excuse the above does it?
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I'm not a bit simple old chap. Simply suggesting some people should get off there fucking high horse and leave such matters for the courts.

If there is any wrong doing here then yes I agree it's pretty fucked up and it makes you question why you'd want to be involved with such people. Like I'm forever questioning why I want to read the crap on here usually posted by the same people.

All I know is some people on here are arrogant twats who think they are too big to show respect to others, unlike Julian and buller who have only been good to myself and my friends.

£15,000 has been stolen from akinadan79 which is disgusting, I honestly hope he gets his money back (although I doubt he will) but there are more fingers to point here than just at Julian. I refer to slander as exactly what has been written in the first post, not at the emails linked in the ghostdancer thread.

Biased moderators = no freedom of speech.

Good night all, sweet dreams xxx
 
II Timmi II said:
Biased moderators = no freedom of speech.
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Sorry mate, but I'm not having that. Freedom of speech? Please point out to me how freedom of speech has been compromised here, or anywhere else on Driftworks for that matter. This place is all about self moderation. All we do is receive PM's about how X hasn't sent me his part he owes, trying to stop people spamming just so they can sell their shit and locking the same old 'what car should I start drifting with' post. Very little actual moderation goes on in the traditional sense.

Phil posted what appeared to be a direct quote from correspondence. The two companies aren't in competition. Phil himself said how he found Julian to be a nice guy in person. Why would he have a need to make this stuff up?
 
II Timmi II said:
more fingers to point here than just at Julian.
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point away, i cant see any?

II Timmi II said:
Biased moderators = no freedom of speech.
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whose biased? i am in no way connected to driftworks? and as ive actually said ive met julian and thought as a person he seemed alright, doesnt excuse this though does it?

II Timmi II said:
All I know is some people on here are arrogant twats who think they are too big to show respect to others, unlike Julian and buller who have only been good to myself and my friends.
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do you see the irony with the above statement about being biased?

so he has been good to you and your friends, does that mean theres no way he could of ripped of someone else?

if i had a load of cash id scammed from people i could afford to be "good" to more of my friends.

why should myself, or anyone else "show respect" to someone who has been accused of thieving? i really dont get that?



and on a side note, yourself and all the others who have jumped to his defence on here (all of which have said are friends, suprsingly) and all have said similar comments on "forever questioning why I want to read the crap on here usually posted by the same people" etc

can i suggest leaving this forum then? as equally those of us who are legit and involved in the drift scene are even more sick of reading shite like the above
 
Its a real shame, puts drifting in such a bad light.

The old grass routes of drifting seems to be gone now:cry:

big business
big comp drifting
big ego's
more money exchanging hands
more deals and sponsorships

MORE CROOKS getting a sniff of cash. Sad times for uk drifting imo

I have only had dealings with drift works and always been spot on with service etc etc etc
Never delt with julian so cant realy comment BUT with so many dodgy comments you can kinda make your own mind up, lets just say i wont be handing any of my hard earned £££ over to julian any time soon
 
Did I say Julian is a friend of mine? No. Buller is a friend who introduced me to Julian who donated some seats from a car about to be scrapped.

Drift scene and legit should not be in the same sentence, I'm not getting into school yard bitching with you or this will go on forever.

If my comment about biased mods is not true then how come we've all seen posts edited to benefit the mods? Don't play dumb and say it hasn't happened lol.

I won't leave this forum but thanks for the suggestion. Some of us obviously aren't welcome to express an opinion (freedom of speech)
 
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