Northern Drift Championship round 2 May 6-7

Me and Louise had a great time .. Thanks to all the staff and you and David.

Isn't there any chance of any more practice days between now and August???? ;)
 
Results are now up online northerndriftchampionship.com .

Massive favour ....
Any chance anyone is free tomorrow for a drive down to hull from middlesbrough or Darlington or surrounding area with a tow car\van ??? bought a car but now no tow vehicle (but do have a trailer) ????
cheers
 
So going by the results I came 5th? I lost out on top 4 by 2 points! :'( fek sake..... Kicking myself for that lol.

Also the red e30 BMW (I think its an e30?...) that keeps owning; should he not be up a class? IMO he's pretty shit hot.. When the rest of us see someone being twinned up were kinda like.. 'oh well, no chance here then.' lol. I figured id say it, since alot of people was saying that on the day.

Also I wanted to bring up the point of the judging. I dont know the full in's and out's obviously however going by round 1 and now round 2 is there some kind of 'in for the local's' kinda thing? The commintators were telling us to go for 'their man' obviously as a joke but its not the first time that its been said the judging has been biased.

I for one dont actually care that much as I tried to explain to alot of angry people, but if I dont mention it, it wont be said. The way I see it, judges decision is final but.. possibly a change of judges per round wouldnt be a bad thing? Maybe get someone who doesnt know any of the drivers on a personal level? Hard possibly.. impossible? I dunno I just wanted to get that out now.

As for everything else. Round 2 was working ALOT better than Round 1! So keep it up guys you all did good. The trains were off the fekin hook cool!
 
@ MInt.

As far as I know. No complaints were expressed to the judges about rnd 1. In fact only a few came to ask "questions" as was suggested in the drivers briefing about their performance. Questions were answered and if I remember correctly those who asked questions and payed attention actually ended the event with better results than during qualifying.

Myself for one, hardly knew anyone "personally" and was my first time at Teesside, so the bias part was not there. Another fact, most of the drivers that were finished came up and watched from the judging tower and stood right behind us watching the judging. They could see the judging was fair.

I know what its like to feel like things are bias. Most times I was wrong about it, however I was correct once and it did not feel good. I would never be bias towards a team or individual when judging. One of the best drivers there received the lowest qualifying score, but instead of crying out bias, he came to me and asked what he did wrong. By the end of the event he drove his ass off and walked away with a trophy, middle finger in the air! haha! Thats what drifting is about!

If you have doubts, then ask, its a learning series for most of you, most of you are in competition under pressure for the first time. The mistakes and improvements are very clear when watching from the judging tower. Don't forget you have Professional drivers doing the judging who compete themselves and know what its like. Everything your experiencing we have felt or been through already. So remembering that we try to judge as fairly as possible but also remembering that it is a learning place and stepping stone for most of you who will go on to better things. We are not making it easy on any of you trust me, but also if we judged more harshly, many of you would probably get discouraged, and that is not what we want, we want to see future drivers coming up in this series who will eventually be lined up against us in battle on the pro international level.

We have gotten thumbs up from pretty much everyone, so who ever thinks the judging is bias, this is my first time hearing about it, and all they got to do is step up and ask why. What did they think was biased and who are you talking about said such things?

For the most part if you were able to get the car sideways you were in the show! lol! how biased can that be. With tons of straightening, corrections, people off the race line, spins, shallow driving, and some not even hitting the clipping points correctly still get a score and not a zero. We made it super easy but still challenging enough for drivers to half to grow a pair and push themselves. There is such a huge gap between levels and our goal is to fix it.

So not aimed at you, but I want to let everyone know right now, that any biased judging rumors or "hey thats my buddy" judging is bullshit, and is not accepted by anyone on the judging panel. So kill your rumors now. Everyone is always welcome to come to the judging tower in between and check things out just like others did. We had so many drivers briefings where I carefully explained what we wanted you to do and even asked if anyone doesn't understand. That was the chance to step up. Some drivers listened, others continued to just go out and do their own thing and results showed. When your being judged its not about if you can make it around the track, or maybe some feel just because they drifting the car they get good scores. No, its about drifting the car and putting it where the judges want and how the judges want it. Some did that, others didn't. School is in session!

"FOOT Down, FUn Up!"
 
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Not slamming the topic or anything, like you said these things come up and if its not said no one knows. but just to make it even more clear, The commentators are not the judges! :) The person or people on the mic commentating the action are not on the judging panel and have no influence on the outcome! :) cheers! haha!
 
Just had a look at the results and I missed the top 4 by 2 points aswell :( bummer. Still for my 2nd ever drift day was well happy.

Big thank you to Jen and David for getting everything sorted and a well ran smooth bank holiday of drifting. Look forward to the next one guys!
 
had an amazing weekend gutted i did so poop lol lots of practice to do before round 3. thanks to all the organizers for a really laid back weekend with lots of seat time.
 
Yes the e30 was at the front of the train that was nothing to do with classes and was for the bbc's benefit that was my decision to put him there he was happy he's team mates behind him were happy . However the judges put him in novice that was and is there choice and I have no in put to them at all about judging . If anyone has any more Q's about how I ran the day please ask and I will tell you my reasons
 
The Hat - Would have been fine if I hadn't put it on the tyres last thing on the practice day but don't worry, new exhaust will be on by August.
 
If we all cast our mind back to the beginning of round one everyone went out and qualified together. Top half becoming semi pro and the bottom half becoming novice. John King and Darren Rickaby producing scores that could possible have put them in the top half of that original qualifying session if more drivers had attended! However, that session set the classes for the year - so they remain, at the moment, the drivers to beat in the novice class.

Next year will be a different story because they both deserve to be in the semi pro class. But both John and Darren have listened to the judges and asked questions and have learnt a lot over the last two meetings. It would be unfair to move them up a class mid season as this would mean they would not have any points from round 1 and 2 in the semi pro class.

John and Darren are not invincible and can be beaten, and the judges are definitely not biased - they are skylinepart.com and we are talking about bmw's ruling the roost!
 
Cheers fella I just had too chill out a bit and not be so aggressive but had too laugh when jeek asked if I thought it was forza and the other cars would go invisible if I get too close during practice glad I listened too the judges and teammates this time although at round 1 it was my first competitive twinning So unkind if just went mental and pushed as hard as I dared lol

But once again I would like too thank all the staff and judges and can only hope the events continue too grow in popularity see you all at round 3
 
i knew it wouldnt take long before people started talking.... To clear a few things up at round 1 i got judged in novice so thats the class i compete in, my car maybe capable of a semi pro but the driver (me) isnt, id also like to point out both times john has qualifyed 1st at both rounds with 2 2nd places but nothing is said about that only me? Im in the situation now if i move up a class which id like to, i
Lose all my points, with being at the front of the trains ive never been on track with another car before, the first few where with team mates so ididnt care what happen because they trust me and visa versa, with the rest thats why i was always at the front incase i did spin,

I hope this clears a few things up
 
Its just 1 of those things for this year, hopefully everyone comes back for RD 3 plus more newbies and we always have a Top 16. No doubt it will sort itself out next year, with some in Novice going up, and some in Semi Pro coming down. If this had been RD 1, we would of qualified 9th and 10th out of 30, so would of been in Semi.
 
Darren you dont need too feel that you have too explain yourself we k ow why you were placed in novice and if it was me in your situation I wouldnt move up to semipro now either it's a tough one as I'm sure you would be happier too be in semipro but then losing two rounds of top points would be a bit crap but on the other hand if you had been in semi pro would you have those points ?? But like I said I wouldn't fancy moving now if I was in your shoes

And as for Darren twinning I was told too
Keep back from him during practice incase he spun and he had no cage etc
 
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