pics of your harness setup...onto rear strut brace if poss :)
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Rawr!
Hey its your choice, just advising on what i've heard and/or researched. Personally unless I am competing, i'd rather be as safe and as comfortable as I can be.
its a stupid comment because you can get reclining seats that hold you just as good as a bucket seat
and i like a harness as i dont fancy being thrown out my seat every time i break hard
a seatbelt across a bucket is dodgy as its tends to hug the bucket more than the body and you get more more movent
reclining seats are built to collaps if a heavy enough impact occurs
you never said anything about a harness bar in previouse post all you said was a cage with a harness bar
you can buy removable bars and also can dothe easy option of mounting harness eye bolts in the right place
from wht i read all you said was
if you want a harness buy a cage which is stupid
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Blackadder
Rawr!
its a stupid comment because you can get reclining seats that hold you just as good as a bucket seat
reclining seats are built to collaps if a heavy enough impact occurs
you never said anything about a harness bar in previouse post all you said was a cage with a harness bar
you can buy removable bars and also can dothe easy option of mounting harness eye bolts in the right place
from wht i read all you said was
if you want a harness buy a cage which is stupid
Ok fair enough if it came across like that then i'll have to agree, but its not what I meant.
But to be honest with what I mentioned in the second post, a harness without a full cage is still a bit of a risky decision, as the idea of a normal seat belt is if the car rolls you will have more chance of ducking out of the way, if your being held upright chances are you will have a broken neck at the very least.
But hell, I don't want to argue, just putting my point across, everyone has a decision to do what they want, hell if everyone wanted to be that safe, fire extinguishers and cut off switched should come as standard
Ok fair enough if it came across like that then i'll have to agree, but its not what I meant.
But to be honest with what I mentioned in the second post, a harness without a full cage is still a bit of a risky decision, as the idea of a normal seat belt is if the car rolls you will have more chance of ducking out of the way, if your being held upright chances are you will have a broken neck at the very least.
But hell, I don't want to argue, just putting my point across, everyone has a decision to do what they want, hell if everyone wanted to be that safe, fire extinguishers and cut off switched should come as standard
yeah i can agree and i dont like running buckets in cars without cages
simply because of the risk and the fact its not as comfertable
for i do need a seat the grips and a harness to hold me inside
i just have no interest in paying uber bucks for a cage and insurance and then getting backach due to a bucket on a long drive
especially if i can do it in a fancy reclining seat like some of the new bride/recaro seats that hold you in the same ways
Blackadder
Rawr!
I completely agree, a good reclining bucket seat can be almost as good as a fixed bucket seat.
Still disagree with regards to the harness but each to their own.
Back to the original question, harness on a rear strut brace: no.
Still disagree with regards to the harness but each to their own.
Back to the original question, harness on a rear strut brace: no.
Blackadder
Rawr!
Everyone will give you a different answer, but if the car were to flip, probably not. Otherwise, yes.
MrLuke
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I don't really get this. Look at the fia fixing instructions, if your harness complies with that then it is as safe as can be expected.
Doesn't matter what seat you have if a pole comes through the windscreen or you have a head on with a lorry.
You're not going to make your car death proof, just take reasonable precautions and make sure its mounted properly either on a fuckoff bar or spreader plates etc
Doesn't matter what seat you have if a pole comes through the windscreen or you have a head on with a lorry.
You're not going to make your car death proof, just take reasonable precautions and make sure its mounted properly either on a fuckoff bar or spreader plates etc
in my skyline..the harness sits at 40 degrees bolted to the rar seatbelt points...im happy with that..when i get a cage, it will be srapped around that...
If you decide to drill a hole further up and put an eye bolt in...you have to reinforce the area with 1" steel plate...the seatbolt holes are designed to take the stress...so you need to make it safe, or they will just rip out...
If you decide to drill a hole further up and put an eye bolt in...you have to reinforce the area with 1" steel plate...the seatbolt holes are designed to take the stress...so you need to make it safe, or they will just rip out...
Putting harnesses onto strut brace bad idea...harness bar best option, if not then rear seatbelt mounts provided it all measures up according to the seatbelt manufacturer.
That'd be the way i'd go about it.
Least nobody on here's been thick enough to suggest wrapping the belt round a flimsy (allbeit very shiny) rear strut brace, from the wrong kind of civic, that they've cut in half and had someone weld the alloy back together again...when i asked why i had it explained to me that "it looks better this way".
Glad people ask before they do, and actually think about the saftey aspect of saftey gear, and not how good it looks as priority one. May be a repetative topic that comes up every so often, but if it stops people from doing things that are going to end up with them/their mate in the passenger seat from getting seriously hurt, if not killed then i reckon its a good thing.
That'd be the way i'd go about it.
Least nobody on here's been thick enough to suggest wrapping the belt round a flimsy (allbeit very shiny) rear strut brace, from the wrong kind of civic, that they've cut in half and had someone weld the alloy back together again...when i asked why i had it explained to me that "it looks better this way".
Glad people ask before they do, and actually think about the saftey aspect of saftey gear, and not how good it looks as priority one. May be a repetative topic that comes up every so often, but if it stops people from doing things that are going to end up with them/their mate in the passenger seat from getting seriously hurt, if not killed then i reckon its a good thing.
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brad88
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well, didnt think there was so many different opinions out there for this.....
im really glad i asked to begin with tho, i have 2 fia fixed buckets at the minute (good ones too) and i find the seat belt cuts across my neck too much and there not adjustable, which is the reason i am wanting harnesses, if it means buying a cage aswell then so be it, i might aswell tdo it as best i can, and i suppose its only gonna help me in the long run if things do go wrong....
cheers for all the info and opinions,
much appreciated,
brad.
im really glad i asked to begin with tho, i have 2 fia fixed buckets at the minute (good ones too) and i find the seat belt cuts across my neck too much and there not adjustable, which is the reason i am wanting harnesses, if it means buying a cage aswell then so be it, i might aswell tdo it as best i can, and i suppose its only gonna help me in the long run if things do go wrong....
cheers for all the info and opinions,
much appreciated,
brad.
Sam H
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Stock seatbelts don't work with bucket seats. This is also the reason it's cutting into your neck. Now imagine an accident with the cutting force x10.
Shall we call you Mr No-head right now? or after? :-)
brad88
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why do you think im wanting harnesses.......thought of that one?
and have i mentioned that i have been driving with them like that?....no would be the answer to that pal
so please think before posting or pm me first to get some facts...if the facts you then recieve dont sit well with you then feel free to post in any of my threads...im asking for advice not critisism, i aint stupid matey and dont do things by half!
so cheers for the input, but its not too much appreciated,
brad
brad88
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by the way lighting, none of that was meant to sound like im not wanting advice, i totally understand what you are saying, but please be aware that not all people on here with a hundred posts are just stupid newbies who know nothing,...i was told to put the harnesses onto the strut brace, i wasnt sure it was a good idea so i asked first to see if anyone had done it,.....im not here to make enemies at all, and i do appreciate getting info and help,
cheers,
brad
cheers,
brad