Saab engined Audi S4 (page 18)

well a B23FT stock is 160hp,

basic tuning such as removing the Cat and freeing the restrictions in the exhaust, plus a fiddle with the boost gives 190-210hp

next a trick cam, better valve springs, re-timing and another hungry increase in boost pressure gives a sensible 260hp

find a 16v head plus a new exhaust manifold from a 1990's onward can give an extra ~10hp nick that from a b230 mind, changing this allows for a bigger turbo T04/T3 hybrid, then an increase on fuel pressure and chip the ECU you're now in the region of 320hp

At this point the stock injectors cant deliver enough fuel for over 320hp, so go big or go home, get the head gas flowed and oversize the valves as well as giving the manifolds a polish and you should be good for 400hp+

If you want more, then get the bottom end balanced and blueprinted, align the crank and block plus a stroker kit.

At this point just turn the boost up and see what it makes, the following will kick out a reliable 400hp+, I've seen them from 500-700hp

I think the Saab lump and Volvo B23FT are in the same league as each other, big power with not a lot of replacement parts required.

Its not about horse power, it's all about the buckets of torque, the odd thing is most 500hp B23FT put out about the same figure in torque, most in excess of 550 ft-lbs

YouTube- Volvo 740 2.3ccm 16V Turbo 530hp 700+Nm

watch and enjoy

 
what I love is with less than £500 you can easily double the stock horse power, what dose £500 get you with a jap engine, not a lot I bet!

thread totally de-railed!

lets see some cutting and grinding and the rear wheel back on the ground!
 
I don't mind the hi-jack - it makes my project thread seem bigger and more active :P

I'll try and get some stuff sorted during the week!
 
that vid made me buy my 940 last year

now the weather is turning nice and all that i might stick my massive intercooler on it finally.

some idiot isnt refunding me for a duff ecu that he sent me so i cant turn my boost up
 
I started off in a 740 B200 N/A which was a piss poor 120hp or there about. When it blew its head gasket, the head was in dire need of a skim for it to seal again, so whilst it was skimmed i had it gas flowed for an extra £10! haha! wasn't a bad job at all. Felt a bit smoother if anything but no real gain.

Anyway the running gear was due a major overhaul and with the start of uni looming at the time, i got shot of the old girl and have been stuck in a Volvo 440 for the best part of 4 years, a lot quicker but no tail action in the bends.

I have been toying with the idea of going back to a 740, but sweet engines are hard to come by now, and V8 conversions just ain't volvo enough so either a tricky T5/6 conversion into a 740 shell, or the super duper easy V40/evo conversion.

Guess money and time will decide that one.
 
no no no no you got it all wrong

a b230ft from a later 940 has 13mm rods as opposed to the others at 9mm, a 531 head off a 760 turbo flows better than the 530 so you have more power from the off

get a fuel cut defender and all that, coupled to a late model M90 gearbox from (again) a late model and you cant lose


and its freakin cheap now
 
Its not about horse power, it's all about the buckets of torque, the odd thing is most 500hp B23FT put out about the same figure in torque, most in excess of 550 ft-lbs

Thats nothing to do with the engine, thats boost.

People dont seem to realise boost=torque.

To get big power from a 8V (or even 16V really) Redblock, if you have any sense, you run big boost, and big boost equals big torque.

Any 2-2.5litre running around 200bhp per litre but around 2bar boost will have the around 200lbft per litre in torque too providing its not been specced so badly its boosting from at least the midrange onwards :thumbs:
 
Tiny update..

Firstly I've been trying to figure out what I'm going to do about clutches. My original plan of being able to use the saab stuff might not be a viable option unless I can find a good friction plate (Alcon or AP sprung 6 paddle or similar) in 228mm with a 1'x23T spline.

If thats not possible I'm going to have to look at converting my flywheel to a pre '93 as these are 240mm. That would mean I could use a 2wd Cosworth clutch. The only problem with this is there isn't really a good performance pressure plate for the Saab in this size and if I were to re-pin the flywheel to accept the cosworth pressure plate I'm not sure if the depth would be the same (as I plan to use the Saab hydro release bearing) We'll see what I come up with...

Aside from that you may recall I had a problem with my order with CompBrake. They sent me the dash adjuster rather than the balance bar - no big deal because they're pretty much the same value but I needed the balance bar to finish my pedal box....

I replyed to the order confirmation email (it said to if I had any problems) and waited a few days before forwarding to the sales email address. A few days later I got an email saying that it had been passed on to the packing dept. and that was it. No response for a while and I had pretty much forgotten about it. Got home last night and what do I find....

Well a £20 Homebase voucher from the Halifax for renewing my home insurance - Perfect excuse for her to get me to do more decorating :smash:

Oh and this...
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No note or anything, just plonked in a jiffy bag and sent to my home address - FOC result!

In other news my old car is up for sale and I really want it back but if I get it the S40 project will really suffer...Sad times :cry:

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Which I put this in...

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Ok, did a bit more on Saturday - not as much as I'd hoped but progress is progress...

I decided to split the Saab bellhousing off the gearbox (this is what took up most of my time - it was a bloody nightmare!) so I could see what the crack was going to be mating it up with the Jag box somehow.

Bellhousing finally split -
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What was once a perfectly good gearbox :smash:
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Then I chopped off what I didn't want (diif housing)
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This is the front of the Jag box that had to get a bit of a chop too. Had to remove this sleeve so that the Saab hydro clutch release slots nicely over the shaft :)
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I've got plans on how its all going to go together - all seems very simple so far (in MY head it does anyway :wack:) Will hopefully show you what the plan is soon :)

Whilst I was shouting very loudly at the gearbox until it fell apart, my future brother in law (the Mrs' 15 year old little brother) kindly stripped back the engine bay. This is just before he took off the servo.
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Then I got a bit impatient and cut a big hole in the bulkhead :smokin:
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View from the front
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The hole actually got much bigger than this, I lost the foot rest and widened it similarly on the otherside and then extended it back past where the original shifter mount was. Was a bit of a rush to get it done before I had to pick up the Mrs from work so I forgot to take the all important pics!

Thats about it really! Really looking forward to getting the engine and box mated up and fixed in the car.... somehow :confused:
 
Midweek update :thumbs:

Decided to do something that could be done in the warmth and in front of the TV so went up to the loft and got this out...

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Took it apart like so...
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Used tape to make a template..
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Few hours later and some near misses with the stanley knife
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The space on the left side is for the Vems LCD display. I need to order a new one because my old one was built into the centre console like so -

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Not sure what finish to give it. Some fancy 3M Di-noc carbon or to flock it. :)
 
Epic project!

You're not from the Hampshire area are you by any chance? I'm sure I recognise the car from the very 1st pic in this thread. Saw it, or one very similar on the M27, probably over a year back now. Stuck in my mind as you don't see many modified Volvos.
 
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