Anyone think formula-d is wank?

Stavros said:
To be fair, calling it that, or NASCAR, which is the two things people who seem to have never seen it recently seem to call it, is bollocks.
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It's one of these phrases that seemed to go viral and I'll always associate it with FD 'Murica. The relentless pursuit of power from everyone that leaves people well behind on the "straight-away" (fucking hate that term) and end up playing this tit for tat on Power.

If you stick 2 equally matched DRIVERS together and one is already 15 feet in front of him due to a power difference, 1 or 2 things may happen - 1. Driver 2 has to scrub off less speed to end up in his door and either hold it like a hero, or cock up magnificently and put 2 cars out, or 2. Driver 2 stays 15 feet back, follows Driver 1's line to the T and loses out for the gap in the Twin.

I would be interested in seeing either a Power limit or a throttle BORE restrictor to bring back that "level" playing field approach, but until then, I just don't see the technical driving aspect in it anymore.

HUGE BIG smoky entries and 1 BILLION miles an hour, lots of Supercharger/Turbo/V8/20B/2J/Occasional 4 Banger noise and a huge dose of Murica: does lots for fans. I'm just not one of them.

WOW that post was long winded, apologies :P
 
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Stavros said:
To be fair, calling it that, or NASCAR, which is the two things people who seem to have never seen it recently seem to call it, is bollocks.
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Stinks of Piston Heads that.

"I tune my car for grip with OEM parts, it's not a sideways slider errrrrrrrrrrrr"

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Formula D is pure garbage. As much as people tried to keep the sport fun and competitive, it started to fade with the years and finally the V8/V10/V12 have been brought to the table. Worst of all in 2020 they will be attaching jokey wheels and it will be impossible to drive straight.

There is a perfect video that sums up what drifting has become
In the old topic we discussed exactly this. Engage drift, park it mid corner, crutch kick and you exit at the same speed you enter. Simples
 
Yeah its shit.. but its american, what do you expect? All they care about is money, sponsor's and how to 'WOW' herds and herds of crowds.

Wanna watch decent drifting, stick on some Dori ten.. simple as. Just opinion though eh.. sure those dudes love that shit.

YEEEEAH MURICA! Prozac and kool-aid..

This dude though; Mat Baribeau. His car looks mega and from the video's iv seen, his entries are sweeeet.

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Plus it reminds me of Stevieboi's 90 :p
 
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Depends who you ask. Point in Drifting comp's as a sport for me is the driving and the actual sport.. not how many drugged up yanks will turn up to an event if we put on shit music and loads of adverts EVERYWHERE!
I get that for 10000000hp cars they need sponsors but America, as usual.. just take it too far and ruin it.

Bad enough here seeing BDC cars plastered with shite sponsors all over them.

As I said, Opinion doc. Leave me alone havent you got some work to do or something? :p
 
“Yeah its shit.. but its american, what do you expect? All they care about is money, sponsor's and how to 'WOW' herds and herds of crowds. “

@mint I wouldn't be surprised if they actually pay the crowd to participate and make it look huge. It's almost like watching those Red Bull stunt races. They take something average and blow it out of proportion totally irrelevant of the original sport. Like a rally car jumping through hoops on a skateboard ramp, then claiming this is done to bring money to children in Africa and more attention to the rally sport hehe
 
This is an odd thread to read. People complaining about power, fast entries and drawing big crowds. Half the drifters I speak to want more power, but they don't want to watch it? I don't understand all the hate towards Formula D, everyone's explanations haven't really made much of a point. Surely we can see that it is a MOTOR sport, so there will be some emphasis on having power and speed on your side? Maybe we should stop athletes when they are lifting too much or going too fast because it will be further away from what the average viewer can reasonably achieve?

The amount of attention Formula D is getting is surely helping to grow the sport? If you think there is something unimpressive about hauling a 1000bhp car sideways around a track at speeds that would scare a lot of people in a straight line then there is an issue. Also from an engineering point of view (like mentioned already) getting 1000bhp to work for you all weekend isn't always easy.

P.S. That Speedhunters post is excellent.
 
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Some amazing things said on this thread.

Amazing not really in a good way. In a 'wtf' 'blinkered' 'i presume you haven't seen much/any of the thing you're voicing your opinion on' kinda way.
 
It's totally forgotten it's roots. I think that's what annoys people. That's what annoys me. It's meant ta be fun not big sponsors and crazy money. The hole idea of drifting was to break away from the conformity in everyday life in japan. And here are the Americans making it more conformed than anyone else. All ya have ta do is watch Taka Aono's video that was real eased lately and realise that even some of the original drivers think it's going too far
 
NoelB said:
It's totally forgotten it's roots. I think that's what annoys people. That's what annoys me. It's meant ta be fun not big sponsors and crazy money. The hole idea of drifting was to break away from the conformity in everyday life in japan. And here are the Americans making it more conformed than anyone else. All ya have ta do is watch Taka Aono's video that was real eased lately and realise that even some of the original drivers think it's going too far
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But grassroots drifting still exists, Just because Formula D is now a well established championship with a lot of money involved in it doesn't stop people drifting for fun and breaking 'away from the conformity'. If anything it supports it and the more people interested and aware of it; the more get involved and the more events and tracks open up.
 
That's what happens when business gets involved, no point getting butthurt about it though.

I think a lot of people have an unhealthy obsession with 90s Japan and won't accept anything which isn't that. Bit sad really.
 
my view on it is having seen the long beach event and the recent video privateer, (in the vids section on here if you havent seen it) is that there is a touch to much power which means you have to have huge sponsers to get the huge power to be in with a chance of being in the top 16 battles. But the engineering that goes into the cars is absolutely spectacular and mind blowing. I love it for that reason because it pushes the boundaries as to what is possible and as has been said by a couple of peeps it is hard making 1000 work consistently.

Its also nice to see new models of cars being used which means they all look nice and fresh, but it would be nice to see something more like the BDC or IDC but it is all down to taste.

Personally i like anything with four wheels and an engine from drift to rally to grip so I'm slightly bias in that respect, but I like the engineering side of it so Formula D is my thing in that respect but i also like the grassroots end of motorsport which is why i am looking forward to driftcup and also enjoying the IDC which seems to be a decent compromise between the range of drift events out there.

but i feel there needs to be more coverage of small grassroot events other wise the sport or any type of motorsport cant expand and evolve and bring newcomers into the motorsport world and into the bigger leagues such as Formula D and then it all falls apart and become stagnant and stops evolving and eventually dies out.

sorry for the length of this got a bit carried away :)
 
Matts Turbo'd said:
i feel there needs to be more coverage of small grassroot events
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The problem with most 'grassroot' events is the driving mostly sucks so nobody wants to watch it. Fun to do, not to watch.

Can have all the coverage in the world, but if it's not entertaining enough, nobody watches it.

It's why Sky Sports don't show people playing football in the park on a Sunday.
 
I doubt you get people in F1 moaning about "grassroots" racing either ..... FD is by no means the only series in the States but it is the highest level one.
 
The way I see it, everyone wanks on about how's they want more events/tracks for grassroot stuff, but what they don't understand is how the orangisors/track owners perceive things. Now to you and I, FD can be a bit boring sometimes although this year is better than the last few but it can show that drifting can have a professional attitude and abide by rules, track etiquette etc. In other words, professional series can help us get more locations if the owners can see drifters can act reasonably on track (which quite a few don't so to speak.)
 
Saw that yesterday, doing a burnout while fastening harness is one of the single coolest things Ive seen in 10+ years of watching drifting :D
 
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