can we have nitrous injection allowed for next year?? please??

Is it then conceivable to use the NOS in the low rev range (when the car is bogging down) and then again at the very top of the revs to increase power at that point?

A note on NOS injected pre turbo/throttle body would also be good.
 
Many thanks for the positive and encouraging posts.

Unfortunately I'm having to spend all my time running my business at the moment but as soon as I can spare some time, I'll get back and provide the correct information, to address the remaining inaccuracies, that were posted earlier in the thread.

Thanks again

Trev
 
jon07043278 said:
Is it then conceivable to use the NOS in the low rev range (when the car is bogging down) and then again at the very top of the revs to increase power at that point?

A note on NOS injected pre turbo/throttle body would also be good.
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This will sound like sales BS but I must say it as it's 100% true; As long as you are using a correctly fitted WON system and following my exact instructions, yes it is certainly possible to use nitrous to do that. However, it would be EXTREMELY DANGEROUS (at worst) or TOTALLY INEFFECTUAL (at best), to try and do it with any other brand of nitrous kit.
As with my previous claim/s in a similar vein, I'm more than happy to provide a comprehensive technical explanation, as to why that is the case but as my time is very limited, for now at least I hope you guys will trust my 35 plus years of experience on such matters.

There isn't any functional difference (for the nitrous system itself), between injecting nitrous pre or post throttle body (TB) but there is more potential for negative consequences, from injecting pre TB if it's used incorrectly.
When it's designed, fitted and used correctly WON nitrous systems can and have been used safely and effectively on just about every combo that exists.
As with most aspects/subjects relating to nitrous, I could write at least a chapter (if not a full book) on it, but as time is so limited I can't do that for you just now. However, if you have a particular combo that you have a specific question about, I'd be more than happy to address that for you and I'll be able to do that, much sooner than posting a general response to your request.

I hope that helps some of you for now and I'll get back as soon as possible.

Thanks again for the positive posts.
 
Just a brief note to mainly say that I haven't forgotten this thread (quite the reverse is the case) and I'll be back as soon as I can find some time.
For now I can report, that I've recently been speaking to one of our UK customers (Matthew Roberts), who whilst he isn't yet a top contender and has only used the system once or twice, did tell me that he was extremely happy with the results (even on the starter jets of approx. 30 hp) and has found he can use it in the way I was expecting.
Like any new mod to a car (especially one that increases the power), it will take some time to determine the optimum way to put it to use and to achieve the best results but it's a promising start for him.
Finally, it sems things have moved on a lot since this thread was started, as I now have a growing number of Drift drivers wanting to add WON products to their cars, so I'm sure you'll all be seeing some impressive results, over the coming months.

Back ASAP with some more tech info.

Best regards

Trevor Langfield
The WIZARD of NOS
 
Just thought I'd cover one tech point, that I discussed with a potential Drift racer today, to make my visit today more interesting for anyone following this thread;
He was asking for a DRY system for a 6 cylinder engine and as he wasn't wanting a great deal of power, he was thinking of having a single injector system.
I advised him against that for the following reasons;
1) Single injectors (nozzles), are very basic and discharge a very narrow and strong plume of nitrous
2) As a result of the above characteristics, the nitrous is fired mainly at the cylinder furthest from the TB and misses those closest to it.
3) In contrast, the fuel being fed through the OEM injectors, will be added to each cylinder EQUALLY.
4) This means that the front cylinders will run rich (losing power) and the back cylinder/s will run lean (potentially causing plug damage leading to piston damage) and only the center cylinder 'MIGHT' run at the correct mixture.
5) The only way a dry system should be used on such an engine config, is in a direct port system with 1 injector (nozzle) per cylinder.

If you want a simple system for such an application, WET is the best way to go for the following reasons;
1) Our combined fuel and nitrous 'nozzle' (our Crossfire Injector), is the ONLY injector that has been specifically designed for single point injection use (ALL other brands use a Fogger style nozzle, which was designed for Direct port use and is totally unsuitable for single point systems).
2) I specifically designed it to achieve 2 primary goals; i) to produce the widest possible plume shape (to spread it as wide as possible across the induction pipe, to achieve the best possible distribution to all cylinders), ii) to remove as much of the directional force as possible (that other nozzles suffer from), so it was more inclined to go where it was needed, rather than solely where it was pointed towards.
3) It was also designed to take ALL the additional fuel WITH the nitrous (other nozzles fail to do this as a high percentage of fuel just FALLS to the manifold floor), which is achieved by firing the fuel INLINE with the airflow (rather than at 90 degrees to it as with Fogger type nozzles).
4) When all the benefits of these features are added together, it is far less likely that one cylinder will get more nitrous than any other but even if one cylinder did get a bit more nitrous than any other, it would also get an equivalent amount of additional fuel, so it would not run lean and those that got a little less nitrous would not run rich.
5) Not only does this result in a more reliable engine but also a more efficient use of the nitrous, as 6 cylinders running at optimum mixture, will produce more power than 2 running lean, 2 running correctly and 2 running too rich.

Back with more tech info ASAP

Best regards

Trev
 
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