Mercedes C230 Kompressor
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Robbs
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Stavros
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Went to the DWYB on the 27th and it was once again amazing, cant get over how much of a weapon it is as a drift car, and 101% reliable too.
Even my Mrs is refusing to let me sell it now as it was so good, but fuck it, when do I ever listen, its going, so buy it if you want it, 1700quid no offers...
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/dri...iff-suspension-buckets-lot-2.html#post1783252
Even my Mrs is refusing to let me sell it now as it was so good, but fuck it, when do I ever listen, its going, so buy it if you want it, 1700quid no offers...
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/dri...iff-suspension-buckets-lot-2.html#post1783252
nissanr34cal
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he has 2 carbon omp seats in it i think
Sam H
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haha, I missed that bit. Tighter harness then short stuff
just read the thread. good work!
but did you ever think fitting water injection post maf?
I know mafs can be funny buggers.
What was the idea of running turbo with charger? Would they have to run the same boost? I guess not?
Agree with you on people on the net knowing JACK, got told std charger good for 210bhp max and std internals are weak.
I can't beleive just simplyfying the pcv system, induction kit, and removing restrictions free'd her up that much!
but did you ever think fitting water injection post maf?
I know mafs can be funny buggers.
What was the idea of running turbo with charger? Would they have to run the same boost? I guess not?
Agree with you on people on the net knowing JACK, got told std charger good for 210bhp max and std internals are weak.
I can't beleive just simplyfying the pcv system, induction kit, and removing restrictions free'd her up that much!
Stavros
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The proofs in the pics, whens the last time you see a smoke machine like that if it only had stock powers, lol.
And on the road I could keep up with or pull away from mates with cars with way more power than a wanky C230K has as standard, which was nice.
MAF is blow thru, only advantage of WI is cooling the supercharger, so no way of doing it after the MAF and before the SC. It was just a pikey setup, if I had spent any time/money I couldve got it working just fine.
Turbo and s/c never run at same boost compounded, thats literally impossible.
One thing I reckon would really help would be a big front mount, but without removing the headlamps permanently, and/or some serious metal cutting (in places that you really shouldnt) it aint happening, hence the WI.
TBH, I'd rather have a 2.5TD one. A big turbo, uprated pump, exhaust, and intercooler, and they can do 400odd bhp on standard internals, fuck, even standard manifolds. One in N.I. like it.
And on the road I could keep up with or pull away from mates with cars with way more power than a wanky C230K has as standard, which was nice.
MAF is blow thru, only advantage of WI is cooling the supercharger, so no way of doing it after the MAF and before the SC. It was just a pikey setup, if I had spent any time/money I couldve got it working just fine.
Turbo and s/c never run at same boost compounded, thats literally impossible.
One thing I reckon would really help would be a big front mount, but without removing the headlamps permanently, and/or some serious metal cutting (in places that you really shouldnt) it aint happening, hence the WI.
TBH, I'd rather have a 2.5TD one. A big turbo, uprated pump, exhaust, and intercooler, and they can do 400odd bhp on standard internals, fuck, even standard manifolds. One in N.I. like it.
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Stavros
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And do they ever get more power by JUST injecting it on the inlet though? No. Helps decrease the chance of det only, and thats not an issue on a Merc, as there's no easy way of bumping up the boost or timing, and IMO you could do that without needing the WI.
Ive done it both ways on cars in the past, and performance-wise pre-compressor is the only way IMO.
Devils Own kit isnt expensive, cheap for what it is, works well.
Countless ways to run a turbo and a blower. Basically there's hundreds of gay ways people rant on about on the internet that they've never really tried and never work that well, or theres the way the very few sucessful competition setups work which is turbo blowing in to supercharger blowing in to engine. No switching off or bypassing of s/c once turbo is on boost. Lot more complex than that, but thats the basics.
Ive done it both ways on cars in the past, and performance-wise pre-compressor is the only way IMO.
Devils Own kit isnt expensive, cheap for what it is, works well.
Countless ways to run a turbo and a blower. Basically there's hundreds of gay ways people rant on about on the internet that they've never really tried and never work that well, or theres the way the very few sucessful competition setups work which is turbo blowing in to supercharger blowing in to engine. No switching off or bypassing of s/c once turbo is on boost. Lot more complex than that, but thats the basics.
errr, this guy seems to have from what i can gather? Hurdy's new Polo GTI..project time!
Haha it's 2 weeks wages for me for the kit!
Guess that way you'd have a strong alternator charge at least
Seriously though, must take ALOT of work to run it that way?
Haha it's 2 weeks wages for me for the kit!
Guess that way you'd have a strong alternator charge at least
Seriously though, must take ALOT of work to run it that way?
Stavros
Active Member
Church-
I had a quick scan, all 'ass dyno' figures I spotted, and its onlya lightly modified Polo GTI, so I'd be surprised. Money would be better spent on a good intercooler, and if he already has one on that Polo and is still claiming that performance difference on such a lightly tuned car he's either full of shat or somethings up.
Go for it if you want, but I've owned 6 or so cars with post compressor water injection, and not one of them noticable increased performance without me also increasing the boost beyond where it was previously safe as it just lowered the chance of det, its a safety thing.
Only performance increases I've noticed while adjusting nothing else was pre-compressor.
Dont understand the strong alternator charge comment.
And yeah more work, but do-able if you know what you're doing.
Flump- Seen a few 190s with the swap, sounds a great idea to me. Never seen the car since it was sold. Guy was from Manc, bought it off here, said he'd done DWYB days and was going to use it again for them and a daily, and never seen it since.
I had a quick scan, all 'ass dyno' figures I spotted, and its onlya lightly modified Polo GTI, so I'd be surprised. Money would be better spent on a good intercooler, and if he already has one on that Polo and is still claiming that performance difference on such a lightly tuned car he's either full of shat or somethings up.
Go for it if you want, but I've owned 6 or so cars with post compressor water injection, and not one of them noticable increased performance without me also increasing the boost beyond where it was previously safe as it just lowered the chance of det, its a safety thing.
Only performance increases I've noticed while adjusting nothing else was pre-compressor.
Dont understand the strong alternator charge comment.
And yeah more work, but do-able if you know what you're doing.
Flump- Seen a few 190s with the swap, sounds a great idea to me. Never seen the car since it was sold. Guy was from Manc, bought it off here, said he'd done DWYB days and was going to use it again for them and a daily, and never seen it since.