Driftworks GeoMaster Hub Knuckles

p.s. munkul, the ackerman is insanly different. like very nearly parallel on full lock.

thats fair enough! but from what I understand, there is still plenty ackerman at low lock - the amount of lock that you'd use on the average track/twisty road...?
 
I can understand that it’s hard for you guys to comprehend the work involved in a project of this scale, as obviously you don’t get to see what goes on in the background at Driftworks. But let me assure you taking on production of such a complicated semi mass produced product is one of the most difficult, expensive and time consuming jobs a business can do.

Im not trying to be facetious at all here, how about one of those "days in the office" type blogs that lots of people genuinely appreciate on product development. Perhaps take something that seems really easy like an arm or offset lock spacer and go through the process. Show people the kind of work and thought that is involved in making such good products. Throw up some vids / photos of people doing the 3d scanning or of the fully modeled suspension layout. Hell take some test / track day footage and then showing results of that testing making changes to your product. I dont need to teach you how to suck eggs, you're the one with the successful company :)

Perhaps itll help stop some of the people moaning about the price and could even get some more to dip into their pockets.

Id be interested to see how you do it anyway :)
 
thats fair enough! but from what I understand, there is still plenty ackerman at low lock - the amount of lock that you'd use on the average track/twisty road...?

what do you mean by this? its a race hub knuckle. people use them for both race and drift use.

what would you be using them for?
 
Im not trying to be facetious at all here, how about one of those "days in the office" type blogs that lots of people genuinely appreciate on product development. Perhaps take something that seems really easy like an arm or offset lock spacer and go through the process. Show people the kind of work and thought that is involved in making such good products. Throw up some vids / photos of people doing the 3d scanning or of the fully modeled suspension layout. Hell take some test / track day footage and then showing results of that testing making changes to your product. I dont need to teach you how to suck eggs, you're the one with the successful company :)

Perhaps itll help stop some of the people moaning about the price and could even get some more to dip into their pockets.

Id be interested to see how you do it anyway :)

really don't understand you here.

the guy doesn't need to brag about the products himself. there awesome once you get round the niggly problems. its when customers go on about them being awesome that makes people buy them.

i honestly dont understand how people can justify a set of rare as blad wheels and NOT buy these. these things do more to a drift car than pretty much any part out there. you can't beat em. but the issues that have occured should have been seen and sorted.
 
i would imagine as people start realising what a difference geo's make and more are sold surely loads of people are going to need arms like that? it can't be all that hard to design them surely? and can't cost much more than standard ones. i'd say it would be a worth while investment getting them made up because one day people are going to need them.

The problem is that it would require a great deal of further investment. We've done our research very thoroughly, and it's not currently economically viable. The particular problem that you have with the arms hitting the CV boot is something that we have only had 2 reports of, and both of those people (one is you ;)) are running their cars way way lower than you should run a car if you want it to perform (even with Geomasters fitted). So again the further significant investment just to solve the problems of two customers just doesn't make sense at this time.
 
Mr Luke, we have a load of data saved for exactly that reason, however because we're not going ahead with the product it kind of makes no sense to show it. Perhaps I can make an article about the way Nissan suspension works in general though, so I'll look into it :)
 
Additional tools and prep required before fitting=

8 large steel washers
14mm drill for s13 coilovers
Emery paper + Small round file. to clear powder coat away from mating faces.
Modified traction arms for low ride height clearance with CV.

Where is going 8 large steel washers?
 
Behind the 19mm bolts holding the rear hub onto the hub carrier.

Na not those but that's a good shout too.
I was on about having to pile up a load of large washers as the thickness of the new knuckles is about 15mm thinner than the stock hubs so the pivot for the handbrake mech is too long and needs packing out make it fit.
 
M.D means the spacing you require for the handbrake pivet bit...

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also some washers for the rear ball joints, have only heard of this issue mind, IF using stock LCA/balljoints..
 
Hold on a sec do they also mean you have to run the rear brake shoes upside down? Am I seeing that right?

yeap.

LH ebrake MECH, backing plate AND cables you fit to the R/H side of the car UPSIDE-DOWN

RH ebrake MECH, backing plate AND cables you fit to the L/H side of the car UPSIDE-DOWN.

its all pretty simple stuff... when you know.

From the advise over the last few pages, you could easily have these fitted in half an hour a corner once the wheels are off...

if you have preped them, got the washers already to hand, along with the s13 rear coilover nuts etc :)
 
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