Northern drift championship teesside autodrome 24/25th march

Would be a shame to have to miss out, but I think you'd be way too good for Semi Pro here.
I guess we need to know from Jen/David if a cage is really needed in Pro and what the twinning would involve.
Would you be happy to compete in Pro twinning without a cage?
yes mate i would.
 
just out of interest as i'm contemplating this. as a edc driver ( so bdc super pro licence equivalent ) in a car without roll cage, i can't compete in this?

if they dont let you twin without a cage theres aways buxton twin comp every month no safty stuff needed and winner gets £100 2nd gets £50
 
if they dont let you twin without a cage theres aways buxton twin comp every month no safty stuff needed and winner gets £100 2nd gets £50
thanks for that but in reality i just want another blast round teeside as it's such a fun track. it's not the comp aspect which is a second consideration for me tbh as i'm not competing anywhere this year but it would be a good laugh to do this as it's near (ish) me
 
thanks for that but in reality i just want another blast round teeside as it's such a fun track. it's not the comp aspect which is a second consideration for me tbh as i'm not competing anywhere this year but it would be a good laugh to do this as it's near (ish) me

im sure there will be plenty of practice days aswell, so even if ya dont compete u can still do the track. Theyre not busy January so you can just about go whenever you want this month:thumbs:
 
Sorry but I can't agree that driver ability is the ONLY way to do it... Might work for the BDC, but splitting by car type works in EVERY other form of motorsport I can think of, and every form of motorsport has a range of abilities.

Personally I have only been into drifting for a few months, I have 2.5 days track experience & although in the process of building something more potent, currently share a car with a mate that is running 135bhp in a 1400 kilo shell... so I'd be in the lower class however you measure it... however, I would much rather finish behind a far better driver in a similar car than a similar standard driver in far better car.
 
Sorry but I can't agree that driver ability is the ONLY way to do it... Might work for the BDC, but splitting by car type works in EVERY other form of motorsport I can think of, and every form of motorsport has a range of abilities.

If its done by car type, then a lot of people wont have a hope of qualifying, therefore they prob wont bother coming. Putting people who have trouble linking the track into they own group, then they all have a chance to qualify. Its the only way to keep it fun for everyone.

just out of interest as i'm contemplating this. as a edc driver ( so bdc super pro licence equivalent ) in a car without roll cage, i can't compete in this?

The top 16 part of the competition for the lower classes will be run as twinning but with a time gap between the two cars. This should enable both cars to be judged together but far enough apart to keep everyone safe. A spin does not mean a big 0 for the whole run but just that section of track.

That reads to me, like all classes will be twinning, with a gap between amateurs. NO mention that a cage is needed.
 
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That reads to me, like all classes will be twinning, with a gap between amateurs. NO mention that a cage is needed.

Semi-Pro
The main difference for this class compared to the Amateur class is modifications are allowed to the cars. No license is required but no driver with a higher license than a BDC Semi-Pro can participate. Unlike the BDC, a rollcage is not required for this class. This should allow some drivers to get some extra practice and experience before entering the BDC without having to spend time and money on a roll cage and extra safety equipment.

thats my problem
 
hi guys i want to enter this but i am new to dw and need to ask the silly questions how much is entry fees and will a roll cage be required i have a 540 e34 totaly stripped out with buckets harness,s hydro but no roll cage would i be ok to enter
 
120 for the weekend as has been stated on the first page, you only need a cage if your competing in pro class otherwise no.

seems everyones getting 540s at the minute.............
 
Might work for the BDC, but splitting by car type works in EVERY other form of motorsport I can think of, and every form of motorsport has a range of abilities.

In EVERY other type of motorsport (with the exception of destruction derby banger races!) the aim of the game is to get to the chequered flag the quickest. Therefore it makes perfect sense to split those events by car type since a more powerful car with the same driver will go quicker.

Drifting on the other hand is all about driving style and not just about speed. Therefore it makes little sense to make a split by engine size or power output. Our original idea to use completely standard cars for amateurs (which has been scraped by the way) was to try and bring complete new comers to the sport. Hence why we are trying to come up with another idea. It WILL be done by driver skill but exactly how we decide we are still discussing.
 
What I don’t really get (and maybe somebody could explain?) is that if you have 50 drivers and you split them into 2 groups of 25 based on ability, surely the top 20% in the lower group will nearly always qualify, and the bottom 20% in the upper group will nearly always be eliminated? So, I don’t understand how it is “fairer”, as there still have to be the same number of eliminations in each group? What am I missing?
 
3 groups. One for complete amateurs, one for people who can drift, one for drifting competitors (BDC, EDC, JDM Allstars.. you get the point).

What's so hard too realize about that? -_-
 
3 groups. One for complete amateurs, one for people who can drift, one for drifting competitors (BDC, EDC, JDM Allstars.. you get the point).

What's so hard too realize about that? -_-

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3 groups. One for complete amateurs, one for people who can drift, one for drifting competitors (BDC, EDC, JDM Allstars.. you get the point).

What's so hard too realize about that? -_-

There is nothing hard about that; you have not actually answered the question I asked though.

If you forget the 'top' group with twinning for the current competitors, then you are left with a load of people of differing experience & car standard to split into 2 groups. What I don't get is why people think it would be more fair to do it based on ability (as you have outlined), rather than on the standard of the car.

Other posters said that it couldn't be split on car type, because the crap drivers would always get eliminated and wouldn't want to compete. As I understand it, the 'worst' in each class will always be the ones that get eliminated, regardless of whether it's split by car type or talent - so I don't see why it is 'more fair' to do it one way than the other?

I'm disappointed that I seem to be getting replied to as if I am an idiot that doesn't grasp the basics - I think I'd rather go on Trampdrift and get called a c*** outright than treated like one on DW :thumbs:
 
Anybody in each group has more of a chance to qualify this way, than splitting by car where some ppl will be so much better. If all the amateurs cant link the track, then all of them will have a chance.
 
Fair enough & cheers for the reply - the guys at the bottom end of the "more experienced" class will not really be that much better than the top of the 'amateurs' though will they? So won't it just be them losing out instead?

Checked out a couple of vids of Teesside on youtube, looks like an awesome track - I assume a reasonable amount of power is needed to drift the fastest bend? Looks to be 3rd gear?
 
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Fair enough & cheers for the reply - the guys at the bottom end of the "more experienced" class will not really be that much better than the top of the 'amateurs' though will they? So won't it just be them losing out instead?

Checked out a couple of vids of Teesside on youtube, looks like an awesome track - I assume a reasonable amount of power is needed to drift the fastest bend? Looks to be 3rd gear?

If it's damp when you came up it'd be fine. probably about 130 in my BMW (318is saloon) and it linked the track well enough with the open diff. 3rd gear has none of it in the dry like haha! Diff's getting welded this week so will get back to you on how it is
 
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